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How are you creating drawings in the field for site analysis, conceptual design, construction administration, or As-builts?

Are there any apps that do this well and play nice with VW?

What about creating conceptual models on site to visualize or test ideas?

Is there any hope of VW developing a tablet solution that addresses the workflow of Landscape Architects?

 

I would love to have a tablet app that could play well with my team’s CAD or BIM backgrounds.

*Tap on an existing tree to add/change data that could link back to the source model.

*Capture GPS data for points or tracks and add it to the model, seamlessly.

*Photomodel, onsite... and feed that back to the main site model.

*etc...

 

I drank the IPad Koolaid awhile back and life and work have been greatly enhanced.  Sketching, modeling, photoshop via Afinity, and flying drones are just scratching the surface.  Taking the plant database on the go has been nice, wish it could be synced automatically.  There is so much potential for improving our workflows by creating a useful extension of VW on a tablet that embraces the entire process of design.

Thoughts?

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So, I'm heading out to a project site to tomorrow to verify a few things and collect information that needs to be incorporated into my VWX model.

I still use an ipad for this purpose, but still don't have a clean and efficient way to recorded the information so it comes directly into VWX.

 

I'm loading my iPad up with PDFs generated in VWX.  I'll probably mark them up in Bluebeam on the ipad.  I'll then come back to the studio and have to reenter that information into VWX.  Isn't there a better way?  Shouldn't there be a better way?  If it wasn't so hot and sunny here, I would be tempted to take my laptop and edit in the field just to alleviate the frustration of doing the same work twice.

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@bc I think importing the PDF makes sense for notes and sketches done in the field.  I'm hoping for something with more precision for items measured and drafted in the field.  A friend suggested investigating Autocad, or any CAD really, designed for the iPad.  Maybe I'll look into that at some point.

 

Interestingly enough, I had to revert back to paper sketching yesterday due to the heat.  My iPad kept overheating.  Such is life in the desert and a big consideration when trying to use these tools.

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The linework is there in the pdf.  If you draw a line.  Export to PDF. Import to VW.  Ungroup the PDF. Delete any bitmap over the top and your line will be there. as accurately as originally drawn.  Have you tried this?  Maybe export to PDF on you iPad won't do this but I have imported many with their vector data intact.

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I Look at those new iPadPro with the LIDAR sensor and think why can't my Building model overlay with the LIDAR sensor and tell me where there are differences.

 

Yes hoping all the work that has gone into VGM and getting to work on metal might see a day that a nice big slate of glass overtakes a folder of drawings for site visits.

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So I drank the koolaid again and upgraded to the latest iPad pro.  1st to get better Procreate performance (speed, canvas size, layer quantities), 2nd to have a larger screen for viewing PDFs in the field,  a larger Procreate workspace, and a second "monitor" for my laptop. Oh, and the pencil charging location is much improved too 🙂

 

It is quite a leap forward from my 2016 iPad Pro, which is still very usable some 6 years later.  I'm surprised I never destroyed the thing given the environments I used it in (hot deserts, frozen mountains, and seaside).  It fell about 15' on a construction site once and miraculously survived unscathed, save one dent to the case.

 

It now has the fastest single core speed, and fairly impressive multicore speed, of any computer I use.

It would be nice if some form of Vectorworks could run on it.

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9 minutes ago, line-weight said:

I can't quite picture how anything but the most basic of drawing edits would be possible on an ipad - even with a stylus/pencil.


Try Shapr 3D, Scaniverse, Procreate, Concepts, and Affinity Designer. Those Apps really gives us a notion of what is presently possible in terms of interface and libraries of tools.

 

Scaniverse does a phenomenal job of allowing you to take measurements of what you just scanned, coupling that with the ease of modeling in Shapr, and the style based objects of Designer into a single app… imagine the possibilities.  
 

I don’t know what all goes into the programming side of these things, but other companies are killing it.  I think it is only a matter of time before a fully functional tablet based CAD or BIM arrives.  The AEC industry is ready. If history is an indicator, a startup will come along and do it and then Autodesk will buy them 😞

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Over five years ago I started this thread and there still isn't anything from Vectorworks that really addresses the need for a .vwx editor in the field.

 

I wonder what others here have been using to draw CAD accurate stuff in the field or editing records attached to objects like existing trees.

 

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9 hours ago, Jeff Prince said:

Over five years ago I started this thread and there still isn't anything from Vectorworks that really addresses the need for a .vwx editor in the field.

 

I wonder what others here have been using to draw CAD accurate stuff in the field or editing records attached to objects like existing trees.

 

Looking more and more like we will get to a camera on hardhat providing a pointcloud of site conditions before we get a device to make direct file mark ups. 

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