Runtime errors with winXPSP2

[Technoflash]

Is anybody else out there in VW land experiencing a lot of runtime errors with winXPSP2? There is a belief that the new Data Execution Protection (DEP) feature in SP2 is stopping VW writing to certain areas of memory that the OS considers sacred. However I've turned that feature off for vectorworks.exe and it has made no difference.I've also turned off my antivirus software with the same result.

O.K Katie....go!

[Guest]

Did you update the video drivers after updating to SP2?

[Technoflash]

Hi Katie

Yes I did, and I updated the motherboard drivers that controll the AGP access to system memory.

[Skidee]

Well, My two cents...

I stay updated with all the drivers, and VW still crashes intermittently. Not enough that it's a major problem, I just have autosave turned on, and save alot (it's become second nature to save after every few edits).

It seems to have gotten a bit worse with the upgrade to SP2.

I give VW the benefit of the doubt. It's a complex system, and code bugs are expected. Still it would be nice to have a solid platform...

Paul Skidmore

Windows XP SP2

[Viper x]

I am not going to touch SP2 as it stands.

I am finding 10.5 seriously unstable as it is, especially with the massive memory leakage, I can not afford to compound that with SP2

[Technoflash]

Ah..thanks guys..I think

Now Paul, are you serious? Is VW so unstable that you have to resort to saving every other keystroke . I do that too now, by the way

"Are you listening to this Katie? of course you are, you're omnipresent, silly me"

The trouble is, everyone wants to blame the other guy. Microsoft tell me it's the ATI driver. ATI tell me that Microsoft wouldn't know a good driver if it jumped up and bit them in the bum. Nevercheck...oh sorry and Nemetschek gives us "beta software" at full retail prices. The Nemetschek retailer in my area tells me all my problems will vanish if only I would buy a Mac. Spare me....I'm tempted to go back to my stick drawings in the sand. Answer me this, when was the last time your pencil crashed and you lost 20 minutes of work?

And Viper, about that massive memory leakage, don't worry brother, it's just a sign of advancing age. Most of my memory leaked away by the time I was 30. It's my life's ambition to have absolutely no memory left by the age of 50. Then I can be like the guy who sold me this dumb program (sorry Dave but, BUY A MACTINTOSH!!! are you crazy?, I just got rid of one)

[cadmin]

@Technoflash

Uhh, You make me shiver with my 48 years. Only 2

years up to total lack of memory.

We have similar problems and we have made a plan

with the follwing items to consider:

1. explore and optimize VW internals

(e.g. autosave function, see this board)

2. explore Open GL-function, test settings

3. test other graphic cards (drivers)

4. Update all drivers

5. optimize printer settings

6. add RAM

7. thread view and analysis on VW

with different administrative tools.

We do this on a target machine and after

a success (hopefully) on the other computers.

I have just started with the last item.

So far I haven't seen any software with

such a complicated threading, opening

such a variety of threads, dll's with

so many different priorities.

But this isn't helpfull for You. I promise

to post again, if I have found a solution.

We work with a w2k srvpck 4, that derives

from one masterclone set up in june 2004

on a new 3 GHz PC 512 MB RAM, 128 MB

ATI-cards.

[cadmin]

@Technoflash

The follwing countermeasures helped

us very much:

1. update of w2k to the latest drivers

and functionality

2. install the VW11 servicepack1 !!!

3. giving virtual memory a much higher value

4. setting backsteps and printer settings

as conservative as possible (no transparency),

etc.

Hope this will work for You, too.