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49 minutes ago, Andrew Pollock said:

I'm running an iMac Pro 64 gigs RAM with the pro vega 64. It better not be the GPU card. As a sole practitioner, I need to be able to keep multiple programs open at the same time as I jump between many apps. Your suggestion doesn't make sense nor should a software require more then the top of the line machine.

My post was May 24th. Have your balls been spinning ever since?

 

Well, then there really is no hope. Top of the line Mac and all is still not good for you. We should really give up all hope. 

 

Thanks for saving me 4 grand on a new Mac meanwhile. I honestly thought that would be the answer. 

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My balls never stop spinning, its what gets me up in the morning.

 

The best thing about the iMac pro is that I can jump between so many apps without a performance hit. This spinning ball in VW was  new when I upgraded to Mojave. Frustrating but not a deal breaker at this point. The funny thing about VW is I understand it, many of the processes are still single core CPU. Therefor the New iMac would be a better value then a iMac Pro since it has better single core speeds and its less $$$$

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On 6/28/2019 at 8:08 AM, Andrew Pollock said:

The funny thing about VW is I understand it, many of the processes are still single core CPU. Therefor the New iMac would be a better value then a iMac Pro since it has better single core speeds and its less $$$$

 

100% accurate on both points. Meanwhile, Apple keeps sticking higher core/lower base clock speed in their laptops... 🤬

 

However, the good news is:

  • VW is always rewriting the legacy code that's a huge culprit of causing that SBBOD (particularly single core operations)
    • They can't finish fast enough as that's priority #1 to all of us here
  • VW19 increased many of the previous single-core operations to 4 cores, and that limit is expected anticipated hoped to increase to 8 cores (or more) in VW20
    • We're due for some Teaser Tuesdays soon
  • The imminent 16" MacBook Pro should have better guts (including thermals) as we exit the dark days of the Jony Ive thin & light (form over function) era
    • Fingers crossed for Threadripper when the Intel contract expires

I experienced the same lagginess when I tried VW19 SP3.1 on Mojave 10.14.5 with the same config iMac Pro you have, and rolled back to HS 10.13.6. Hopefully that improved in SP4 because SP5 will probably be the final version of VW19 (notwithstanding any minor point upgrades for Catalina compatibility), and 10.14.6 will be the final version of Mojave, so we're running out of runway... 

 

Not for nothing but Mojave just seems/feels like a half-baked transitional release. Catalina looks like the Snow Leopard/iOS 12/"s" for speed/stability version but will undoubtedly take the usual six months to become stable, meanwhile wreaking havoc on VW until it is.

 

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5 hours ago, Andrew Pollock said:

My balls never stop spinning, its what gets me up in the morning.

 

The best thing about the iMac pro is that I can jump between so many apps without a performance hit. This spinning ball in VW was  new when I upgraded to Mojave. Frustrating but not a deal breaker at this point. The funny thing about VW is I understand it, many of the processes are still single core CPU. Therefor the New iMac would be a better value then a iMac Pro since it has better single core speeds and its less $$$$

Good call. 

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On 6/27/2019 at 9:43 AM, SVA Architects said:

MAC compatibility ‘coming soon’. 

 

New 3Dconnexion driver adds support for CadMouse Pro Wireless (assuming the left-handed version as well):

 

https://www.3dconnexion.com/service/drivers.html

 

Version 10.6.3 (July 12, 2019). Fourth public release of version 10.6.

  • Updated: 3DxMacCore v. 1.1.2 (b106, 3deb50e; Jul 12, 2019).
  • Fix: [MAC-112] Problems installing 3DxWare 10 on macOS 10.14.5 on some machines.
  • Note: Hot-fix release to address MAC-112.

Version 10.6.2 (June 28, 2019). Third public release of version 10.8.

  • Updated: 3DxMacCore v. 1.1.1 (b95, 280bb1e; Jun 28, 2019).
  • Updated: 3DxMaya v. 4.6.0 (r15781; Jan 23, 2019).
  • Updated: 3DxNLServer v. 1.3.3 (r16341; Jun 28, 2019).
  • Updated: 3DxPair v. 2.3.3 (r16242; May 18).
  • Updated: 3DxSketchUp v. 5.0.0 (r16196; May 15, 2019).
  • New: Added “CadMouse Pro Wireless” device support.
  • New: [MAC-90] Add support for version 2019 of Autodesk Maya.
  • Fix: [MAC-68] Wrong axis motion.
  • Fix: [MAC-87] Remove NL .config files on driver installation. This fixes the issue causing
  • the auto center of rotation (I3DN feature) defaulting to off in applications such as
  • Onshape.
  • Fix: [MAC-96] 3DxNLServer crashes on QuickZoom In/Out.
  • Fix: [MAC-110] Mouse cursor jumps to left-bottom when starting 3DxNumPad.

 

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With the release of VW 2020 and Mac OS Catalina just around the corner I hope very much that the story of VW 2019 and Mac OS Mojave does not occur again. I hope that VW 2020 and Mac OS Catalina have a friendly relationship from the start. It would be awesome to update directly to Mac OS Catalina when it comes out and not have to delay the update because of Vectorworks! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

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Dream on...   : )

they will tell you a half a year: "don't update...  bla bla bla not supporting... bla...

vw 2019 has even 32 bit engines wich won't work for catalina...   how retro is that? 

mojave often tells me: some components of VW are not compatible in the future.

here we only can pray to whatever, that VW finally does his homework...

i have no hope anymore.

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1 hour ago, martinfdc said:

I hope that VW 2020 and Mac OS Catalina

So far, the results are much better than last year. You can follow up the latest about Catalina and Vectorworks here: 

We are waiting for macOS Catalina 10.15 Beta 6 release to provide you with more updates. Stay tuned!

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VW2019 is 64 bit except for two components:

 

/Contents/Frameworks/Python.framework/Versions/3.5/bin/python3.5-32

/Contents/Frameworks/AFDP.bin

 

Python shouldn't be that hard. Not sure what AFDP is, however.

 

Vectorworks Plants is a Filemaker db and is 64 bit except for:

 

/Contents/Frameworks/libxerces-c-3.0.dylib

/Contents/Frameworks/libxalan-c.111.0.dylib

/Contents/Frameworks/libxalanMsg.111.0.dylib

 

That's not insurmountable, especially in an annual release. Pretty much all professional-grade apps I use (e.g. ProTools HD, parts of the Adobe Suite) throw this error as well. A lot of developers will have to clean out the 32-bit dependencies for Catalina support. I expect to see this resolved for most companies by Catalina's release. There will be some that drag on (Avid is often 6-12 months behind in officially supporting Apple releases). 

 

To find out what apps are not Catalina ready on your machine, you can use Go64: https://www.stclairsoft.com/Go64/index.html

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On 6/28/2019 at 4:08 PM, Andrew Pollock said:

My balls never stop spinning, its what gets me up in the morning.

 

The best thing about the iMac pro is that I can jump between so many apps without a performance hit. This spinning ball in VW was  new when I upgraded to Mojave. Frustrating but not a deal breaker at this point. The funny thing about VW is I understand it, many of the processes are still single core CPU. Therefor the New iMac would be a better value then a iMac Pro since it has better single core speeds and its less $$$$

Good call. 

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I reluctantly cancelled my annual subscription renewal last month. When I see on this forum that 2020 is working with Catalina or whatever version combination of either I may resubscribe. I know it costs more to jump a couple of years before upgrading but maybe things will work out at some point. I have grown to find beachballs somewhat hypnotic and reassuring...like an old car that misfires at the same point after it warms up every day. 

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2 hours ago, martinfdc said:

With the release of VW 2020 and Mac OS Catalina just around the corner I hope very much that the story of VW 2019 and Mac OS Mojave does not occur again. I hope that VW 2020 and Mac OS Catalina have a friendly relationship from the start. It would be awesome to update directly to Mac OS Catalina when it comes out and not have to delay the update because of Vectorworks! 🙏🙏🙏🙏

 

At this point, I update macOS one year/OS behind, and I have no issues with VW or other software computability. iOS is a different story because it's locked down. Same with every other Apple OS. But macOS is beta until they abandon it for the next version. It's all relative, so I'm a happy camper with full 32-bit compatibility, and no complaints. See y'all in a year!

 

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