drawing Walls in a row - unwanted joining

[zoomer]

I'm not sure if this a bug or a feature.

 

I often have a grid of Columns and sometimes between there have to be Walls.

So in Fact a long Wall that is Subtracted by Columns.

(Pilaster would work, as long as the Wall is not in the middle of the Grid Axis)

 

So when I try to draw each Wall Segment by snapping between the Columns,

most times after I finish my Wall with a double click, its start point moves

back to the end of the previous Wall.

It is very likely that this happens when the previous Wall is still selected when

you start the next Wall, but not necessarily.

I also tried to draw ever second Wall only and check if nothing selected,

and it connected to the other Wall, 2 grid axis away anyway !?

 

That is quite tedious as I always have to leave my Wall Tool for select/drag

and pull the Wall ends from each other manually.

 

Is there any use case where this behavior makes sense ?

Or is there any setting that would avoid this ?

[Kevin McAllister]

16 hours ago, zoomer said:

I'm not sure if this a bug or a feature.

 

I often have a grid of Columns and sometimes between there have to be Walls.

So in Fact a long Wall that is Subtracted by Columns.

(Pilaster would work, as long as the Wall is not in the middle of the Grid Axis)

 

So when I try to draw each Wall Segment by snapping between the Columns,

most times after I finish my Wall with a double click, its start point moves

back to the end of the previous Wall.

It is very likely that this happens when the previous Wall is still selected when

you start the next Wall, but not necessarily.

I also tried to draw ever second Wall only and check if nothing selected,

and it connected to the other Wall, 2 grid axis away anyway !?

 

That is quite tedious as I always have to leave my Wall Tool for select/drag

and pull the Wall ends from each other manually.

 

Is there any use case where this behavior makes sense ?

Or is there any setting that would avoid this ?

 

I would try turning off master snaps. I've found they can create a lot of unwanted behaviour, especially when you're zoomed out.

 

Kevin

 

[Jonathan Pickup]

This is a situation where you should turn off auto join walls

[zoomer]

6 hours ago, Kevin McAllister said:

I would try turning off master snaps. I've found they can create a lot of unwanted behaviour, especially when you're zoomed out.

 

I tried.

At first it seemed to work while drawing, but a bit later after zooming all Walls were joined again.

 

 

28 minutes ago, Jonathan Pickup said:

This is a situation where you should turn off auto join walls

 

Thanks Jonathan.

I hadn't thought about that !

It works well when deactivated.

 

 

Will bring some confusion when I need or need auto joining not though.

 

But why does VW join when there is a distance in placement ?

It is at least 40 cm which is greater that most of my Walls are wide.

 

I didn't notice that behavior otherwise when stopping some cm in front of

other Walls without Columns so far, perpendicular or parallel.

But I tried again.

Maybe it is dependent on Zoom Level (?)

And when drawing very fast, I really managed to draw a 2 m long Wall and

when ending with a double click - it T-joined to another perpendicular Wall,

another 6 m away !?

[Jonathan Pickup]

Auto join walls is not based on location close to the start of your second wall. If you touch the first wall, Vectorworks will recognise that you want to join to that. So, in your situation you've touched the first wall then you move to draw the second wall, Vectorworks assumes you want to join the two together.

I have auto join walls available on my quick preferences (top right corner of the toolbar). When I have trouble, I checked to make sure it's turned on or off depending on the situation.

[zoomer]

Oh, I think I was mistaken.

I do not touch my Walls at all.

 

I start Wall 1 at the right side of Column 1 with the 1st click.

I drag to the left side of column 2 and double click to finish.

(Wall stays selected)

Then I move my cursor to the right side of column 2,

which is 40 cm away from Wall 1, start Wall 2 with a click.

At the left side of Column 3 I finish Wall 2 with a double click.

 

At this moment, the Start of Wall 2 jumps 40 cm back to connect

with the end of Wall 1 !

 

Not always, but it can even happen if I draw my Walls only every

second field for safety.

[Benson Shaw]

This happens to my walls too.  Sometimes.  I tried to force it in new blank drawing and it was inconsistent.  I think 1st couple walls auto joined across a gap or over a 2d separator, even though the auto join pref was off.  But subsequent walls respected the OFF.  Vectorworks is learning my intent?  Toggling the vwx pref shortcut for auto connect to OFF position usually provides future unjoined walls and leaves alone walls that were previously joined intentionally.  I didn't do any Storys projects for a while, but I have created properly bound walls in a Storys based drawing that join vertically across levels as well as horizontally. So maybe the intended joining is more likely in that context? Toggling the pref helped there, too, but I think I gave up.  Probably should try again to learn storey features.

 

-B

[zoomer]

When I tried jonathan's tip with auto join OFF I had no trouble anymore.

But I will look at it more closely.

In that case it may not be just a strange auto join behavior.

More something like mixing up position inputs of current object with

previous object's data.