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I get a notice as I open 2017 to start work.  Update libraries.  Oh sweet...new content!  So I promptly go to VSS and go to my usual sections that apply to me and...zip, zero, nada.  It's all in the entertainment section.  Let's share the love.

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Nothing against new Entertainment content, but I agree 100%. 

 

And on top of that, there haven’t been any new VSS Training or How-To videos released for Vw2018.

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The libraries in general have given everyone a little something.

 

14 minutes ago, rDesign said:

And on top that, there haven’t been any new VSS Training or How-To videos released for Vw2018.

I agree.  It's felt a little like rain or drought.

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20 minutes ago, rDesign said:

And on top that, there haven’t been any new VSS Training or How-To videos released for Vw2018.


For the moment it's all being pushed straight to youtube, got some upgrades for how you get that content planned and in the works now.

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2 minutes ago, JimW said:


For the moment it's all being pushed straight to youtube, got some upgrades for how you get that content planned and in the works now.

 

In that case, perhaps this line quoted below from the Service Select page should be revised (emphasis mine), since those training videos were included as part of the benefits of a paid VSS subscription (not free on YouTube).

 

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Vectorworks Service Select is a maintenance agreement that provides customers with several added benefits, including immediate upgrade of new product releases, the best pricing, priority technical support, VIP access to downloads, and an always-growing library of on-demand learning tutorials. You’ll also have the premier level of storage with Vectorworks Cloud Services at 20 GB (over the standard 2 GB).

 

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This is temporary and users will be much happier after the transition, the short period between will be quickly forgotten. 

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IKEA Beds, new landscape furniture, and an update of more vehicles were added as well as the Spotlight stuff.  The bigger issue with content is that manufacturers of spotlight type content are excited to have their products in VW, many architect type content barely register that VW exists; they put everything out in Revit or Autocad.  

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2 hours ago, JimW said:

For the moment it's all being pushed straight to youtube

 

That is great.

(Because the VSS Site is so slow for me)

Also YouTube has Search and Playlists which helps to find things.

 

On the other hand I would prefer Vimeo

(I think it has better quality or more serious or professional content in general)

just because its works in real full screen on iOS Safari.

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53 minutes ago, Rob Books said:

IKEA Beds

 

I like that.

Would like to see the whole catalog as Ikea tends to have some reduced design

which should save file size 🙂

 

55 minutes ago, Rob Books said:

The bigger issue with content is that manufacturers are excited to have their products in VW, many architect type content barely register that VW exists; they put everything out in Revit or Autocad. 

 

How does that work.

Do manufacturers get a SDK and put their content themselves in VW.

Like batch export their ProE or SolidWorks Models simply as ugly meshes VW Symbols.

Or does VW help and look over it ?

 

I would so like to simply put library content in my files.

But that means so much re-classing to office standard and the complicated Meshes slow

down the whole VW experience.

Especially bent chair leg tubes or over complicated chair leg feet are meshed automated

so badly and Mesh Reduce would even only destroy the geometry.

Therefore I either avoid using them or mostly rebuild as much as I can manually.

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7 hours ago, Markvl said:

I get a notice as I open 2017 to start work.  Update libraries.  Oh sweet...new content!  So I promptly go to VSS and go to my usual sections that apply to me and...zip, zero, nada.  It's all in the entertainment section.  Let's share the love.

 

Better for me.

German reseller (and now german Support for bug requests !?) for my US Version.

 

I get nice newsletters about cute library "Architectural" content with nice previews,

but have no access as my VSS library is US only.

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@Rob Books  I don't intend this thread to be overly critical but rather to express a level of disappointment.  A VSS subscription isn't just about getting the latest version of VW but having access to these said libraries and other content.  The models are great for enhancing visualizations and are put together in such a way that makes navigating in the VW environment easier vs grabbing models from say the 3D Warehouse.  So when you get a notification that libraries need to be updated, I get excited to see what is new.

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15 minutes ago, Markvl said:

@Rob Books  I don't intend this thread to be overly critical but rather to express a level of disappointment.  A VSS subscription isn't just about getting the latest version of VW but having access to these said libraries and other content.  The models are great for enhancing visualizations and are put together in such a way that makes navigating in the VW environment easier vs grabbing models from say the 3D Warehouse.  So when you get a notification that libraries need to be updated, I get excited to see what is new.

 

when you get that notification, all the libraries are downloaded to your RM in the Service Select Libraries/Subscription libraries area.  with the Resource Manager, there is no longer the need to go up to the portal, though we do keep the portal active for those that want to do the downloads that way.  there was just a bit of confusion here in the office yesterday about who was going to turn on what on the portal.

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29 minutes ago, zoomer said:

 

I like that.

Would like to see the whole catalog as Ikea tends to have some reduced design

which should save file size 🙂

 

 

How does that work.

Do manufacturers get a SDK and put their content themselves in VW.

Like batch export their ProE or SolidWorks Models simply as ugly meshes VW Symbols.

Or does VW help and look over it ?

 

I would so like to simply put library content in my files.

But that means so much re-classing to office standard and the complicated Meshes slow

down the whole VW experience.

Especially bent chair leg tubes or over complicated chair leg feet are meshed automated

so badly and Mesh Reduce would even only destroy the geometry.

Therefore I either avoid using them or mostly rebuild as much as I can manually.

 

We prefer to have permissions from the manufacturer before we construct a library, unless it is a generic library.  When i first started going to Entertainment trade shows, I often got a "who are you with?"  now I go, and they all but trip over getting me contacts and data that we need for the library.  That is one of the bigger reasons why Spotlight  has more content, along with the fact that we are a big player in the industry as opposed to the impression we are small potatoes in the Architectural world.

I have almost two years of content planned out for Spotlight, we have so many companies coming on board.  not to mention the constant updates we need with manufacturers putting out new items every six months.

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5 minutes ago, Rob Books said:

We prefer to have permissions from the manufacturer before we construct a library, unless it is a generic library. 

 

So... IKEA gave permission for the Beds library, but nothing else? 🙄

 

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@Rob Books

Until your post I always thought the Arch Library content in VW is pretty extensive ....

 

34 minutes ago, Rob Books said:

before we construct a library

 

So all Libraries are created, updated, managed by VW ?

 

 

Also VW has BIMObject (and a Revit + DWG import)

But these are Meshes only too when I tried.

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37 minutes ago, rDesign said:

 

So... IKEA gave permission for the Beds library, but nothing else? 🙄

  


We create publish libraries as fast as we are able, if there's anything you'd specifically like, please request it on the wishlist. Rolling eyes at the engineers taking it upon themselves to voluntarily answer your questions here on the forum is unproductive at best.

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My apologies. My frustrations with bugs and other Vw issues unrelated to this current thread are bleeding through to all topics.

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It's all good.  when I started here, there were only two of us for ALL the content, we now have a team of 5 1/2.  Service Select is far more demanding for content than when we used to only have it on the disk with the program.  but we still have the same issues with manufacturers and permissions which means that you notice it far more often with libraries coming out every other month.

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34 minutes ago, zoomer said:

So all Libraries are created, updated, managed by VW ?

everything that is on Service Select, or in the packages was developed in house or converted, and checked by one of the content team.  some may come from a distributor, but it still goes through one of us before being put in the RM or on the Service Select portal.

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Uh, sounds like a lot of work ....

 

I thought it is more like a :

Wouldn't you like to advertise your products in our BIM CAD,

here is your VW NFR License, the Library Standard Manual, the Template File,

have fun ....

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10 minutes ago, zoomer said:

Uh, sounds like a lot of work ....

 

I thought it is more like a :

Wouldn't you like to advertise your products in our BIM CAD,

here is your VW NFR License, the Library Standard Manual, the Template File,

have fun ....

Some companies want to do it themselves, others are happy to have us do it for them.  it all depends on the company.

of course for the Architectural side, our collaboration with BIMObject helps out some, and we don't have as hands on with the new stuff going up there as on our own content.  so it can be kinda hit or miss.  we gave directions, but that does not always mean they are followed.

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I can understand that manufacturers don't like to give manufacturing ready CAD Geometries out.

To not find their products on Ali Baba two months later.

So I think they provide Meshes only. And the crappier the Meshes the better for this purpose.

 

Maybe that's why also all DWG Library Objects offered seem to be crappy Meshes too.

The only Library with reduced design in pure Solid Geometry I found so far is in Shape.

 

So I'm excited what Ikea Furniture Library in look like.

I think even a Computer can't fail to convert a Billy Cupboard into a low res Mesh 🙂

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14 hours ago, zoomer said:

The only Library with reduced design in pure Solid Geometry I found so far is in Shape.

🙂

 

Zoomer, what is "Shape"?  Is this a website?

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31 minutes ago, cberg said:

Zoomer, what is "Shape"?  Is this a website?

 

Bricscad Shape is a free DWG 3D Sketch App with a simple reduced UI.

To sketch and design 3D Architectural Models similar like in SketchUp

but works with true Solids Geometry, ready to "BIMify" later in full Bricscad.

 

The DWG Models import very nice into VW and I find it interesting.

But it works a bit different and has some Autocad behaviors,

so VW user may hate it.

Nothing you couldn't somehow do in VW itself (?)

So similar like SketchUp vs VW but useful Geometry.

 

 

And I really like such a reduced Models Library that you can throw in your

model without thinking and without 3 chairs Symbols having larger Geometry

than your whole Architecture Model 🙂

 

And what I have to rethink as a strict "all controlled by Classes" guy for

Furniture Symbols is, if I shouldn't also go like Shape and put the whole

Furniture Geometry into a single Class and start to assign colors and

materials by Object only.

Because my typical "Material-Classes" System for Building Elements starts

to explode when I want to include thousands of (unimportant)

Furniture Materials.

 

 

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