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Bruce Kieffer

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I'm trying to figure out why the line thickness of my walls is different. The walls are different wall style, but as far as I can tell the component line thickness is set the same. I have zoom line thickness on and that accentuates the difference.

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I called support. I think I have it figured out. It's a setting, but I have to say there are too many settings!!! I'll report back when I know the fix.

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Here's where the setting is... I'm having a hard time understanding why there are SO MANY different class and style settings for windows and doors. Some trump others, some do nothing. It's too confusing. I suspect the way to do this is to make it so all the attributes are set by the class.

 

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Alan,

What is the purpose of the "Edit Wall Attributes... " button and settings in the Edit Wall Style dialog box? Seem like it overrides the other settings like in my case it was set to a line thickness of .25, and the components were set to .005. The .25 setting took precedence.

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Edit Wall Attributes controls the attributes of the Container Class.  The Container Class is determined and set under the Insertion Options tab of the Wall Style.  Last year, the engineering team created that button "Set All Attributes By Class" that greatly reduces the time required to create wall styles and their associated attributes.  I firmly adhere to the Wes Gardner school of classing everything.  Yes, it makes for alot of class but YES you have control over how your output looks.

 

Additionally, IF you are using unstyled walls, in the Class dialog, use the lower section of the texturing dialog box where it says "Left", "Center", "Right" to assign textures to your wall.  IF you are using COMPONENT WALLS, use the upper portion where it says "Object and Component Textures" to assign textures to your wall's components.

 

Please feel free to email me any time at wgardner@vectorworks.net

 

Incidentally, I model everything with low line weight (like .05) and then build up the line weight in the viewport with a combination of class overrides and over-drawing.

 

 

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Wes,

What is <<Container Class>>? How is it used? I asked the question back in 2006 and never got an answer. I search the Vectorworks Help, nothing. It's in my file. I turn it off, no change of visibilities in my drawing.

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Hey Bruce,

Take a look at the attached file.  There are two container classes - Wall-Exterior and Wall-Interior.  The other classes associated with walls are component classes.  Explore how the classing affects line weight etc. Make a viewport, over ride the classes, etc.  take it for a test drive.  "Container Class" may not be an "official" Vectorworks name but I think it describes what's going on, it "contains" the component classes.

 

We are working really hard to try and clean up some of the classes, etc.  Things take time.

 

Wes

 

 

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Wes and Alan,

Thanks. I understand how to use classes and sub-classes. What I don't understand is where did the <<Container Class>> class in my file come from? Why is it there? I don't recall making it. Is it a relic? I assumed that either placing a window or door created the class titled <<Container Class>>.

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@Bruce KiefferHi That <Container Class> like that in my classes I have never seen that before with the <> I can only suspect it came with an object imported like a wall style or something. You can create a class name like this so maybe it came attached.

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