Mickey Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Using the new Insert Truss tool, not the straight truss tool, is there a way to make a symbol vertical? In all of the other versions of VW I had to have 2 symbols. A Horizontal symbol, and a vertical symbol. Do I need to do the same thing for the new tool? I mainly work with Tomcat, or Tomcat compatible truss, and in the files included with VW2018 all of the truss symbols are labeled "Horz" which lead me to believe I need to make verts as in the past. I've read through several threads here, and I can't find a solid answer. So before I take the time to make a bunch of new symbols I want to know A: Is there a way to make an already inserted truss Vertical? B: If I have to make a new symbol will I break any of it's functions if I duplicate a symbol and make it vertical? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee JustinVH Posted January 22, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 22, 2018 Hi Mickey, If you are using the Insert Truss Tool with an existing horizontal symbol you can make that truss into a vertical truss. In order to do this using the new tool simply change the hanging angle to 90º in the Hanging Angle selection box next to your active symbol. When you insert the symbol it will be a vertical truss instead of a horizontal truss. As there is no existing geometry for a vertical truss the Resource Manager will create a vertical truss that is a 3D symbol with the rest of the truss symbols in the document. I attached a quick video to show you the process. Vertical_Truss_Drawing.mov Quote Link to comment
Mickey Posted January 22, 2018 Author Share Posted January 22, 2018 Brilliant. It would have been nice if it were explained that simply in the Help file. Thanks I learned more than just vertical truss in that short video. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee JustinVH Posted January 22, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 22, 2018 Not a problem. That Hanging Angle also will allow you to choose other angles so that you can create trusses that hang on the diagonal when viewed in a front view. Quote Link to comment
Mario Haché Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Greetings, I don't know if i can join your conversation, i recently found out about this forum, i'm really new in VW spotlight, i have been at it for only a month now, thank you for your valuable information. I followed your short video and learned so much in a few minutes. At this point, i would like to know how to sit a moving light on top of a vertical truss? Thank you for taking the time. Cheers Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee JustinVH Posted February 21, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 21, 2018 Hello Mario, I am glad that the video was helpful. The best way to place a moving light on top of a vertical truss is as follows: -Insert the light using the Lighting Instrument Tool and use the insertion point for the light as the center of the end of the truss. Be sure you are in a Top/Plan view when you do this. If you are using a lighting instrument from the Resource Manager they are all designed to be inserted hanging in the down position. This of course means that your light is inside the truss as it is hanging down. -To correct the issue of the light hanging inside your truss, select the light and scroll down to the bottom of the Object Info Palette until you see a check box labeled "Set 3D Orientation". -When you check the Set 3D Orientation Box you will activate a X Rotation and a Y Rotation dialog box directly below the Set 3D Orientation box. -If you enter a value of 180 in the Y rotation dialog box your light will rotate so that it is standing up instead of hanging down. -You may have to adjust the Z height of your light to get it to rest on top of the truss but that should be it. In a side view your light will be sitting on top of the vertical truss and pointing up as opposed to pointing down. I hope that helps. Justin 1 Quote Link to comment
Mario Haché Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Great! Thanks for your help! Best regards Quote Link to comment
Maxweisen Posted August 8, 2018 Share Posted August 8, 2018 @JustinVH I stumbled upon this thread on my search regarding hanging angle. I understand being able to change the truss hanging angle while inserting a new truss symbol. My question, is there a way to change the hanging angle of a group of connected truss symbols? For example, if I make a square of trusses, can I grab all of the trusses and change their hanging angle after I have created it? - Max Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee JustinVH Posted August 8, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted August 8, 2018 @Maxweisen Hi Max, Unfortunately, at this time you cannot change the hanging angle of a truss that is already in place. If you know the hanging angle in advance and insert your first piece using the angle all of the pieces of truss that connect will follow the original angle. There is somewhat of a workaround though and it is as follows: -Select the connected trusses that you want to rotate and make sure they are all highlighted -In the OIP check the "Draw 3D Only" box which will remove the 2D geometry and allow for rotation -Go to a front, back, or side view so that you can see the profile of the truss and not the top -Rotate using the Modify>Rotate command or the Rotate Tool -My preference is to use the Rotate Tool as it allows me to choose the point from which to rotate and I can see a preview of the angle By using the Rotate Tool in different views you can create compound angled sets of connected truss. I hope that helps answer your question. Quote Link to comment
Suni Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 @JustinVH I'm trying to insert a circular truss in a vertical position, but it doesn't seem to respond to any of your previous tips in this thread.. I have tried the "draw in 3D only" option, but I'm still not able to change the 3D truss in to any other angle then horisontal. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee JustinVH Posted September 12, 2019 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted September 12, 2019 @SuniAre you using version 2020 or are still using version 2019 like your signature? I just want to make sure that I use the correct version when I list your workflow. Quote Link to comment
Suni Posted September 12, 2019 Share Posted September 12, 2019 @JustinVH I have installed 2020, but I'm still running 2019, as I'm in the middle of this project. Quote Link to comment
JonnyC Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Hello, Just jumping in on this. Im using the insert straight truss tool and then making it a flat truss (Ladder Truss as I call it) I then adjust the roll so the truss is hanging to the two chords are hanging above and below from each other. Is there a way to then make the 2d symbol look the same, so it just looks like a single pipe? It seems to always want to show itself sitting flat with the chords to the left and right of each other. Im using 2020, Thanks 🙂 Jonny Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee jcogdell Posted August 20, 2020 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted August 20, 2020 Our ladder trusses each have 2 sets of symbols to address this issue, one 'flat' and one 'upright'. Depending on the truss library you may need to activate the straight truss tool and search using the toolbar drop-down rather than just selecting in the resource manager Quote Link to comment
shilin Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Hi, may I know how to edit the position geometry for truss since i never pop out for me to choose as symbol or geometry? Quote Link to comment
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