Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'm currently demoing VW 2018 When using the Insert truss tool, horizontal trusses are fine. If I insert a vertical truss (symbol - Truss Vert Prolyte H30D) the truss inserts as horizontal despite the cross showing the loci at the end of the truss being in the right place. I can connect further vertical trusses using the truss tool but they all show as horizontal. Am I doing something really stupid or is this another tool that is perhaps not up to scratch yet (seating layout anyone?) Picture attached Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Shown below selected to indicate the position of the loci in the correct place Quote Link to comment
markdd Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I had a similar issue a week or so ago. Have you tried restarting the program? That worked for me. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Restarting makes no difference Inserting a vertical truss symbol attached to a corner brings up the Truss Properties dialogue rather than just dropping the symbol in place Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 If insert a horizontal truss symbol onto the vertical face of a corner block, the truss is correctly oriented in the vertical position but it inserts at the wrong height (see below with inserted horizontal symbol selected) Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 And here showing a different corner with horizontal symbol inserted onto vertical face. The truss is the correct height but the wrong rotation. Is this a problem with the Prolyte symbols? I have a demo of braceworks booked but to be honest it's already looking very much like a $5000 white elephant Quote Link to comment
markdd Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I’ve seen it working well in a demo. I just tried the Truss tool just now and it worked fine for me. Are you on OSX or Windows? Maybe wait for the demo. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 I'm on windows. I'll see how the demo goes. So far VW 2018 has a truss tool that doesn't seem to work and has inherited a legacy rendering bug from 2017, It's not looking good unless you are building M.C. Escher trusses and rendering black rectangles! Quote Link to comment
markdd Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I know. I’ve not seen the rendering problems yet, but I am endlessly frustrated by things not working from one edition to another. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 Hmmm, so no vertical truss loading, no bridle calcs. Sounds like a product it's worth giving a few years to mature. Is there a way to remove the braceworks functionality altogether so I don't get connection points i don't need making a mess of truss plots? Quote Link to comment
Guest Beckstorm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 @Mike Wrightyou can use your old symbols with the symbol insertion tool, the truss will just come in as a normal symbol. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 So I should be able to get an older prolyte symbol library from the VSS portal and use them Quote Link to comment
Guest Beckstorm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 If you just looking to get rid of the auto connect function then using the symbol insertion tool will do that, and you can still work with the current library. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 nope - the 2016 symbols also have the same tags. I can use the symbol insertion too but it removes the 'double click & drop' functionality. Unless there is a way to prevent the truss tag selecting the insert truss tool automatically. I think an email to vectorworks is in order, whilst braceworks is a fantastic tool, to half build the functionality into a full S/W release is just strange. Vectorworks should either HAVE braceworks in it's entirety or NOT HAVE it in it's entirety rather than some crazy half way house. In effect you are being penalised for not spending an extra £5000. Quote Link to comment
Guest Beckstorm Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 I don't believe there is a way to do that. Just and FYI the insert truss tool is part of spotlight, Braceworks is just the calculation commands and report functionality. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 11, 2017 Author Share Posted October 11, 2017 So the insert truss tool is just poorly implemented then which has been exacerbated by forcing the libraries to be compatible with an optional and expensive plugin. I despair! Quote Link to comment
JToomey Posted October 14, 2017 Share Posted October 14, 2017 Mike On 10/11/2017 at 10:27 AM, Mike Wright said: So the insert truss tool is just poorly implemented then which has been exacerbated by forcing the libraries to be compatible with an optional and expensive plugin. I despair! Mike, not sure if you are looking to just add Vertical Truss (any Truss for that matter) or if you need it to actually connect and calculate but I am experiencing a similar issue and have been inserting my Truss via the Lighting Instrument Tool. Just so that it inserts a symbol that is free of all the Spotlight Truss settings.. of course now all my Truss is classified as a Lighting Device but I can live with that. Quote Link to comment
Mike Wright Posted October 14, 2017 Author Share Posted October 14, 2017 Thanks for the tip. I have a Braceworks demo (with the fantastic JimW i believe) booked next week so hope to get some answers Quote Link to comment
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