Hanging Positions don't assign Heights anymore.

[markdd 468]

Unless a hanging position is made of either a truss object or a lighting pipe object it seems that it will no linger automatically assign Z values to the instruments placed onto it. Is this intended? Am I missing a step when creating a hanging position in VWX Spotlight 2018?

 

Many thanks

[Art V 260]

I don't have Spotlight so have to make a guess here. Do you mean that you put an object in 3D on top of another 3D object but the placed object does not get a z-height? That sounds like a bug to me.
Unless it is a layer with a Z-height, then it could be that the height within that layer remains 0 as the height is then relative to the layer, but I guess you already know that.

[wclights 2]

I have this same question. I cannot even get my hanging positions made from light pipes to assign a Z value. That was like 90% of the value of converting lighting pipes for me. Hoping it is just a bug. Worth noting that if I change the height of a hanging position with lights already on it they do adjust their Z by that much, so it is tracking once it's dropped just not attaching itself to the Z value initially.

Edited September 22, 2017 by wclights

[RickR 55]

Are you getting the position name in the fixture OIP?

 

I find it all too easy to not quite get the fixture to associate. Sometimes I'm just moving too quickly, or too quickly for the software and miss the position.

[markdd 468]

52 minutes ago, RickR said:

Are you getting the position name in the fixture OIP

Absolutely certain. The fixtures don’t inherit the position’s z value if they are not made of lighting pipes or truss objects.

 

This is not good. I have submitted this as a bug.

[RickR 55]

Works fine for me. I drew the position from a line and an extrusion, all from scratch in a blank file, just to be sure.

2018 hanging testing.vwx

[markdd 468]

Just downloaded your file and I still can't make it work! Will contact tech support to see what they say.

[wclights 2]

So about half the time my light will associate with the z-position, but even if it does I have found if I change the design layer the instrument is on (like when I accidentally draft it into the wrong layer to begin with) it almost always resets the z-position to 0".

[Wesley Burrows 91]

On 9/23/2017 at 4:17 PM, wclights said:

So about half the time my light will associate with the z-position, but even if it does I have found if I change the design layer the instrument is on (like when I accidentally draft it into the wrong layer to begin with) it almost always resets the z-position to 0".

 

 

I am on SP1 and have run in to this too.  The Z height changing when reassigning layers is driving me insane.  I have had it happen with lights and video walls so far.

Edited November 10, 2017 by Wesley Burrows

[RickR 55]

Do your layers have different heights?

 

My habit from previous versions is always to draw lighting position symbols at Z=0. Then there is never any confusion over position height or where on the symbol the fixture lands. It seems that truss objects in the library don't follow this rule as they have 0,0 at the truss center.

[markdd 468]

This has also driven me insane these last few weeks drafting a complex plot with instruments at all sorts of random heights that need fixing just because the new hanging position will not function as it is meant to. Longing for the new service pack to arrive. Hopefully a whole slew of bugs will be fixed then.

[RickR 55]

Pro: The longer it takes the more they fix? or test better?

Con: Struggling with broken software.

 

I specifically waited for SP1 before converting current projects to 2018. Now I'm thinking about going backwards!

 

[Wesley Burrows 91]

32 minutes ago, RickR said:

Do your layers have different heights?

 

My habit from previous versions is always to draw lighting position symbols at Z=0. Then there is never any confusion over position height or where on the symbol the fixture lands. It seems that truss objects in the library don't follow this rule as they have 0,0 at the truss center.

 

No,  brand new layers with no height.    

 

On one hand Braceworks has saved me a bunch of time,   on the other,  I'm beating my head against the wall with some otherwise simple tasks. 

Edited November 10, 2017 by Wesley Burrows

[markdd 468]

18 minutes ago, RickR said:

 

Pro: The longer it takes the more they fix? or test better?

Con: Struggling with broken software.

 

Tech support said early November so any day now I guess. 

[Wesley Burrows 91]

6 minutes ago, markdd said:

Tech support said early November so any day now I guess. 

 

Here's hoping!