barkest Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 This AR work is the new sports hall that is being built where I work. For those who don't know AR then you can go all around the building and even inside just by walking around with you phone. I will post a video at some point. 3 Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted September 10, 2017 Share Posted September 10, 2017 Nice work! Assuming you made this in VW, how did you make it work in AR? Quote Link to comment
barkest Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 14 hours ago, Jan-Burger TROOST said: Nice work! Assuming you made this in VW, how did you make it work in AR? thanks. VW to Unity3D I use the Vuforia SDK with Unity and even though it was a 3-day slog to get it all in place I can honestly say its a 20 min job now. There is no coding it really is just a drag and drop exercise for the most part. I have now included touch events such as scale and move (Android) and once again it was a simple exercise. I started here: http://www.justapixel.co.uk/how-to-make-an-ar-app-in-5-minutes-with-unity-and-vuforia/ Its a bit out-of-date but for the most part you can work it out. Anyone who wants to give it a try then feel free to ask if you get stuck (happy to help) Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 I suppose that tomorrow night this method will become a bit more outdated, due to ARkit? ;-) Wouldn't it be cool to export a 3D model to Nomad and 'swipe' it into the real world from *within* the app. I know some students here that would be very eager to get their hands on it for their interior designs...! Will give your method a go & come back to you in a while. Cheers, JB Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 BTW: should my students get their skates on and make a lot of items, furniture and other stuff - will their be a general repository to upload it to or can I assign my own server address from your app? Quote Link to comment
barkest Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 16 minutes ago, Jan-Burger TROOST said: I suppose that tomorrow night this method will become a bit more outdated, due to ARkit? ;-) There are two routes with ARKit (iOS) and ARCore (Android). Both of these will enhance my current work but I will not lose the experience gained. 12 minutes ago, Jan-Burger TROOST said: will their be a general repository You put your assets (building and interior objects) into Unity3D and create the AR from there Your students will be able to texture interiors and then create the AR project in Unity3D via .fbx from VW Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 2 minutes ago, barkest said: Your students will be able to texture interiors and then create the AR project in Unity3D via .fbx from VW You mean like with Sketchfab.com? Isn’t their a way to use the textures they use in VW? Quote Link to comment
barkest Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yes you texture in VW as normal. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 16, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 16, 2018 Just popping in let you all know that you can now visualize your 3D models in Apple's ARKit, inside Nomad. Just generate a 3D model file (.vgx) by clicking on the .vwx file, open it, and place it on a surface. You can then scale it to real world size. http://blog.vectorworks.net/-bring-your-designs-to-the-real-world-with-augmented-reality 1 Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 That is really really cool ! Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 THANKYOU THANKYOU THANKYOU Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 16, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 16, 2018 A couple of caveats: Keep the models simple. Too much complexity can slow/freeze the AR view. You MUST have one of the iOS devices capable of running ARKit There must be good lighting or the device cannot detect surfaces Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) This is a perfect time for our students to get their hands on ARkit! I will write some workshops for them & post the results here. To be continued... ;-) Edited January 16, 2018 by Jan-Burger TROOST Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 16, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 16, 2018 Excellent! Let me know if there is any help you need. Quote Link to comment
jbtroost Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Yeah, maybe a couple of hundreds iPad Pros or so... But thanks, I'll keep you posted! Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 @Jan-Burger TROOSTHi if you are teaching students and you are interested in AV and you might want your students to be able to put on a VR headset and walk around their designs you should take a look at some of my video tutorials as i have been experimenting with VR and I can now take a model form VW and place it into Unity3D and using a HTCVive unit walk around. VW2018 is great as it has Export Object which doesnt have the problems of normals disappearing like FBX and 3DS does. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8kDxktdVH8 If anyone has tips or is playing with VR or AR would love to hear from you so i can learn more. Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 With VW Nomad and AR i watched the video and looked at Nomad again. As a NOOB here what is the process to get the Model exported and then be able to view in the Ipad? Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 19, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 19, 2018 First you need to get your Vectorworks file into the cloud (via the Vectorworks Cloud website or the Desktop app). From there, open up Nomad, log in, and click on the Vectorworks file you just uploaded. It will ask to Generate the 3D model. Click Yes. In a moment or two it will generate a VGX file. Click on this and select View In AR in the dialog that appears. If you have a compatible device, you can now point the camera towards the floor, or other horizontal surface. A message will appear on the screen that you are to tap to place the model. Then you can use gestures to manipulate the position and scale of the model. Tips: Center your model in the center of the Vectorworks Internal Origin (this becomes the center of the placement in AR). Simplify your model by removing any complex or unnecessary elements Objects like 3D plants don't work that well because they are too complex If you want to view at 100% scale, you have to have a large enough space to use it, otherwise the illusion is lost and the model appears to float. Good luck! Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 @Alex NicolHi, Thanks for that, got it to work. VW Design Layer at 1: 1 worked better then my normal 1:100. This is so cool, so much to play with. Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 @barkestHi, I have Unity at present and I cant seem to see where to add the Vuforia AR Support to Unity after installed. You mentioned to select at download. Thanks Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 19, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 19, 2018 Great, glad you got it working! The scale of the design layer should not matter. Did you notice a difference? Here's a hidden feature to check out: Tap on a surface of the 3D object to hide it. You can see the interior floor plan of a building by tapping to hide, on the roof/walls. Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 @Alex NicolHi Yes i did notice the difference the 1:100 i could just see the model way off in the distance, but that may have been that the model was not at 0,0. So i can test again. Thanks for the tip on hiding. Happy to talk on PM any time to share info in AR & VR. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 19, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 19, 2018 Yes, NOT moving the model towards 0,0 and scaling it to 1:1 will give you a bad time. It's not too surprising when you think about it, but a building set 100 meters from origin, scaled at 1:1 in ARKit, will be 100 meters from where you set it down. We could calculate a bounding box and use that as the center, but there are times when that might not work. Quote Link to comment
AlanW Posted January 19, 2018 Share Posted January 19, 2018 (edited) @Alex Nicol. ARKit havn't played with that yet, any where i should start in tutorials. Currnetly am heavily into learning how to get my VW models int Unity3D which is working well. So keen to learn more things. Thanks Edited January 19, 2018 by Alan Woodwell Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Alex Nicol Posted January 19, 2018 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted January 19, 2018 Apple has some good tutorials: https://developer.apple.com/documentation/arkit/building_your_first_ar_experience This github repo has tons of sample projects/tutorials: https://github.com/olucurious/Awesome-ARKit Quote Link to comment
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