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Is it possible to convert Vectorworks (BIM) files into Revit format?

 

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Have you tried exporting as an IFC file and importing it in Revit?

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Chin-Pin I have tried IFC export. I was wondering if there is any way to convert to Revit?

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I think other solutions, e.g. dwg export, will give you geometry only model into Revit. I have not tried that before though.

 

 

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Really?  This is the extent of this knowledge and interchangeability?  I need to export our work so that the large team using Revit can integrate into the  model they are building.  Apparently there is no way to do this?  IFC is not useful as there is no usable information in the file and it needs to be re-built in revit.  Just thought I'd ask

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I'm interested to hear you say that IFC is not useful. IFC is our standard recommendation for exporting to Revit. Both Vectorworks and Revit are certified to import and export IFC 2x3 for model sharing and exchange. Since Autodesk has not published (and almost certainly will not publish) the RVT schema, and IFC is virtually the only non-native file format that Revit will open (see illustration), why is it you say that IFC is not useful?

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Robert,

 

You wrote at a great time as we just this morning are trying to import a 550mb Revit file.  The problem we have with Revit as well as IFC is the way objects are grouped and classed .  Even after requesting the architect properly calls all object what we get are a bunch of IFC entities with groups and symbols inside all on class '0' or 'none' with no texture applied and attributes not assigned by class.  We therefore cannot apply textures to this file in any way to make it a useful tool for visualization as it would take many hours to convert everything to proper classes to assign textures etc. If you could point me to a resource that will will explain a better way to do this I would appreciate it.  The architects (EYRC) are using the standard AIA layer/class naming convention in Revit so I doubt there's anything more they can do.  As it is now we can't use either IFC or Revit, without essentially going into every object to assign classes and textures.  This is a lot easier in a program like Lumion but is not a reasonable endeavor in VW.

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Your first posting was about export to Revit, now this is about importing from Revit, so these are not the same thing! Revit can export a SAT file, which Vectorworks can import. If all you want is geometry, and don't care about object structure or data, I would give that a try. We use SAT file export from Revit and import into Vectorworks quite a bit for content conversion.

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Sorry for the confusion and thanks for your input - I will give SAT a try for REVIT export and try IFC for VW export.

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Perhaps you could assist with how an IFC export works in VWorks?  You mention above that this is the preferred way to get a model into Revit from Vectorworks but we are not Architects and do not have the capability of creating stories etc.  We've tried exporting IFC objects but doesn't seem to work with our work (hardscapes, solids models).  We are landscape architects.  Can I ask again what you suggest is the right method for exchanging models with the team that uses Revit?

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Hello:

 

Export directly to REVIT can be an excellent way to share data. For example I am creating the BIM Library of a Windows Maker, and he ask for the REVIT files.

 

IFC is my choice to BIM sharing information, but it is very complicated to people new in this affairs

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Has anybody successfully brought an VW exported IFC project into Revit?  If so, I would be interested in knowing what settings are used for a successful implementation.  We have tried a few tests with our consultants.  One sticking point is that doors and windows do not appear correctly in plan in Revit.  Here is a screen capture (sorry for the low resolution) of what an import looks like on the Revit User end.  (I'll try to replace with a higher resolution image at some point...)

 

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Right now we are using the following export settings. The iFC file is linked to Revit.  Apparently, the doors and windows show up in 3D, but they do not show up in 2D.  How do we get the doors to show up correctly in the revit model plan views?

 

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cberg, 

 

Unlike the Vectorworks file format, IFC does not handle coordinated 2D planar geometry to go with the 3D. The IFC file format is 3D only. (Well, technically it's not, but 2D geometry is considered "annotation" and is not part of the certification.) But all applications that export IFC are exporting 3D geometry only, AFAIK. In other words, this is not a Vectorworks export issue (it's exporting very high-quality IFC), this is an inability of Revit to convert IFC to Revit native objects.

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That makes sense, somewhat. 

 

Is there any workaround, or settings that I could use in my export process that would get rid of these boxes in Revit or is this just a limitation of the IFC to Revit export process?  For example, would it help if I export all 3d doors open?   Should I turn all my doors and windows off?   Or is there nothing that can be done? 

 

 

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On 10/12/2018 at 7:21 PM, Robert Anderson said:

Your first posting was about export to Revit, now this is about importing from Revit, so these are not the same thing!

 

Here please ....

 

 

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I am looking to go from VW to Revit.  :-)  But looks you are also having problems going from Revit to VW.  

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It's just my clients.

Would be hard to convince them to go VW 😉

All have Revit.

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Here is another view of a simpler IFC Export.  Here is the VW file. 

 

 

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This is what the Revit Import looks like.IFC CV2.0 Settings Top Plan.  Using Does anybody know what we can do in Revit to turn the bounding boxes off.  This is critical to collaboration with our consultants.

 

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Here is what it looks like in autodesk viewer

 

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I generally have these Cutting Boxes in Bricscads DWG.

So in IFC too.

But as in Bricscad, in IFC these are on a separate Layer that is usually OFF.

Not sure if I have seen them from VW > IFC > Bricscad.

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In Solibri I see it is somehow OFF by default.

I can make it Visible when I go select Object Opening > Relations > Void

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Zoomer.  You are brilliant!! Thank you!

 

The boxes are Opening entities.  Someone in my office came across this link which talks about what to do.  We are going to experiment to see if we can turn them off through filtering.  Or perhaps opening the IFC directly.

 

                            https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-structure-forum/linked-ifc-window-door-opening-box/td-p/7624489

 

 

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