Lee C.S. Young Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I still have issues with two dialogs that I use often in VW. One being the duplicate array and the other being the move dialog. These two dialogs are not following the logical flow of the usage of the dialogs, and are breaking both Apple's and Microsoft's design guidelines. The Duplicate Array Dialog This dialog opens with the active control being the OK button. Why? The dialog should focus on the most commonly used control, and in this case, I would most likely be correct in assuming that would be the edit fields for the amount of offset. The dialogs tab order (and perhaps the layout) should be taken a look at and reassessed. The Move Dialog This dialog I have real issues with. The active control is the OK button. The next tab brings you to the Cancel button. Next tab brings you to the Radio button. Finally you are taken to the first edit field. This means it takes three presses of the tab button to get to the most commonly used control. Shouldn't the move dialog used to move an object quickly? I've emailed this to both tech and bugsubmit before 10.5.1 was released, (without a response) and while the clean up on the Duplicate array dialog was a start, would someone over at NNA please take a look at this? Thank you. Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted March 24, 2004 Share Posted March 24, 2004 I would prefer it to remain as is, I often need to use the same move and duplicat array settings repeatedly. Quote Link to comment
Lee C.S. Young Posted March 24, 2004 Author Share Posted March 24, 2004 Then hit enter on the keyboard.... Quote Link to comment
JHEarcht Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 In VW10 the tab sequence seems to have changed from VW9. I used to tab to Linear Array and then to the X/Y Offsets. Now it tabs from Linear Array to Rotate Duplicate and then to Circular Array. So I have to stop and go back with the mouse to enter Linear offset dimensions. For me, this is not progress. And that's my 2 cents worth. Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Anything that breaks anything to do with Microsoft is OK with me............... Quote Link to comment
Bart Rammeloo Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Only two issues with VectorWorks GUI? NNA must be making progress then And Lee, I have the same issues you have (and then some). Cheers, BaRa Quote Link to comment
Lee C.S. Young Posted March 29, 2004 Author Share Posted March 29, 2004 I have more issues with the GUI but those (for the most part) I can live with. Ray, zero: hitting enter on the keyboard dismisses the dialog no matter what control is active. So changing each dialog to follow proper behaviour would not affect what you are used to. Quote Link to comment
ccroft Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 It seems the Move dialog works(ed) just right in 8.5.2,which is still where I am. The dialog opens with the X axis field active.The next time you open it has the last entered value hi-lited,allowing you to hit enter to accept this value or to enter a new one. Dupe array is pretty much the same.Tab order is Number,X,Y. and it remembers the last settings. The other array options are radio buttons. It's sounds like I'll be wearing out the tab key when I update,which may be later than sooner. Quote Link to comment
Kees W Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 my VW 10.5.1 is exactly the same as ccroft's describtion from 8.5. This is on a Mac, it sounds more like nemetchek is simply suffering from microsoft's flawed design guidelines. Quote Link to comment
Lee C.S. Young Posted March 30, 2004 Author Share Posted March 30, 2004 Kees, take a look at the link I posted; the dialogs are not following the design guidelines, which is the issue in the first place. [edit] Anyway, I'm not trying to beat up on NNA here. I'm far from an expert in GUI design and implementation. I'd just like to go back to the efficient dialogs. Thanks for listening.[/edit] [ 03-30-2004, 11:15 AM: Message edited by: Lee C.S. Young ] Quote Link to comment
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