How to BIM - Multiple Choice - V1

[zoomer]

Regarding the first floor below.

High Story Height,

Suspended Ceiling (not visible here)

Curtain Wall at the bottom until Suspended Ceiling - Standard Wall above

 

 

 

So, as vertically only one Wall per Layer :

 

 

1.

Curtain Wall Tool

New Wall Style for Story 2 above to let the Standard Wall hang down into Story 1

 

2.

Standard Wall

Fake Curtain Wall by standard Window Tool + Custom Geometry

(That's what I do in the Stories above)

 

3.

Standard Wall

Curtain Wall Tool, packed in a Symbol and inserted into Wall

 

4.

Create additional intermediate Story

(That's what I do in the very high Stories above, with Level Bottom of Structure set to Top of Structure height !

to avoid the need of new Wall Style heights or pieces of slabs between Walls and Columns)

 

5.

Other, please explain

 

 

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Edited July 5, 2017 by zoomer

[cberg]

I insert windows as openings/cased openings to model the opening.  And manually place curtain-wall walls (not inserted) into the openings).  This gives you the most amount of control over where things go.  At corners, I make corner windows. 

I find it mindbogglingly, pull-your-hair-out, super-duper frustrating that the curtain wall tool (as designed) does not allow you to do something so simple and so needed within everyday commercial architectural practice. 

 

Thanks for letting me rant!  :-)

 

 

Edited July 5, 2017 by cberg

[zoomer]

Thanks cberg,

that is exactly what I wanted and a quite similar example.

So I did not that wrong.

 

BTW 

There is no rant here in Germany - we call it constructive criticism

 

 

Although it doesn't look like a standard Wall at all at first sight in my case I came

to the conclusion that in BIM it is better to start from most basic room enclosures

like Slabs and standard Walls and hack it later.

So like you did I used a standard Wall.

And the best way to create openings in Walls are basic Windows or Doors.

I too took just Windows to control these in a parametric manner.

So I see your election not "other" but a combination of 1-3

 

 

Where we currently differ is the use of Curtain Wall Tool and Windows.

 

My Windows or not just (cased) openings.

The Jamb is used by 2 cm thickness to provide the sheet metal covers for the

insulation around the Window Openings.

The Sash is used to bring left/right/top/bottom poles of the curtain Wall and

the Glass Panel. This way I can easily control or change opening dimensions.

 

All other vertical Poles along the facade grid are done by a single Extrude for the

whole Story. This way I can react on changes vertically and have the full 2D power

when editing the Pole's rectangles in Extrude Edit Mode.

 

Beside that CW are Walls and you shall not insert Walls into Walls,

the main reason why I renounced of Curtain Wall Tool is that these are terribly slow

for me on Mac. (I have seen videos where they didn't behave as slow as for me)

And that they create a lot of separated geometry that is not better or much visible

for Visualization and 3D Export.

And I would need each of them separate, I can't just put 1 CW in a Symbol or mirror them.

But I wished that CW's were the way to go and use them like you did.

 

My question is now, what do you do to prevent your CW's from destroying and interfering

your Auto Wall Joining of standard Walls ?

Groups, Symbols, Auto Joining Off, ..... ?

Edited July 5, 2017 by zoomer