Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Really can not get this to work properly. Think I'll have to butcher something together in Photoshop. Mike Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Why is it moving between Camera Match and updating the Viewport. It's making it impossible to align as when I think it's aligned and then update the Viewport, it moves out of line. Mike Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 So, what is going on here?????? Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Right! I give up with it! Wasted way to much of my time! Does not work properly. Just deleted and redone. Why does it move when refreshing the Viewport????? Mike Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Why does it move when trying to fine tune it, or just going into the Viewport? Video attached. VW - Camera Match Bug.mp4 Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 I wondering if I can export the Model into Sketchup and use the Photomatch in that which seems to work. Mike Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 (edited) 2 hours ago, Michael Siggers said: I'm assuming I can still export to VW24, then just reopen the file in VW25? Yes, of course. Just as this export/reimport somehow seems to fix your buggy behavior - in VW 2025. For fine tuning, I think all (best suited/visible)vertical Z lines should be fine, while all X and Y helper lines need to be placed on these four foreground buildings only, which use the same desired XY orientation (or rotation along Z axis) for your project. I also experience all kind of VW 2025 awkwardnesses in 3D Viewports. AFAIR mainly after doing Undos, that suddenly the view zoom gets off and/or the view rotation went to "trackball" rotation (banking), which VW never offered before and it needs a switch to top plan view to bring it back in usual "lock horizon/turntable" mode. I think something big went out of order in VW 2025 with orientation in 3D Space. Could be that these issues first started with SP 2-3, could also be that switching from M1 to M4 Max is the cause. Edited February 7 by zoomer Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 28 minutes ago, zoomer said: I think something big went out of order in VW 2025 with orientation in 3D Space I think it is completely buggered. Attached is a screenshot of Camera Match. What the hell is going on with the double photos? Mike Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Impossible to work with when it is so out of whack. Pointless trying to fine tune it when it clearly has a lot of problems with the software. Mike Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 Maybe it thinks it's a Rangefinder Camera? Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted February 7 Share Posted February 7 7 minutes ago, Michael Siggers said: What the hell is going on with the double photos? No clue what is going on in VW 2025. But I think it is not likely something really related to Camera Match. 1 Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted February 10 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 10 @Michael Siggers, Sorry for the troubles you've been having. The double photos is caused by something going wrong in the alignment between the photo image in the Camera Match object and the viewport's render background. The image in the Camera Match object is used for placing the control lines and for tuning the view in line render modes. You can turn the image off be deselecting "Show Photo" in the Object Info palette for the Camera Match object. When clicking on the Object Info palette "Render Viewport" button for the Camera Match object, "Show Photo" automatically turns off for render modes that support render backgrounds or turns on for modes that don't. I've never seen this issue before and I cannot reproduce it in a new file. I will note the photo image misalignment in the bug report to make sure this also gets looked at. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted February 10 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted February 10 @Michael Siggers, I did notice the shifted image problem does go away after clicking on the "Render Viewport" button (of the selected Camera Match object) or by existing the annotations and clicking the viewpoints "Update" button. Unfortunately, the "Fine Tune View" dialog also has the offset problem. Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted March 21 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 21 @Michael Siggers, Et al, Some of the issues are fixed in 2025 Update 4 and the rest are resolved for 2025 Update 5. The main issue you were having is fixed in Update 5 but can also be corrected by users by setting the Projection for the viewport containing the Camera Match object away from the new "2-point Perspective" mode. Camera Match always sets the viewport to 3-point perspective but could not tell if the viewport was using a 2-point vs 3-point. Currently, Camera Match calculations rely on three vanishing points and the new 2-point perspective viewport mode throws things off causing the shifting of the model and background image. 1 Quote Link to comment
Michael Siggers Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Hi @Matt Panzer Looks like I'm stuck on Update 3 as it is refusing to update. Keeps telling me Vectorworks is open........ which it is not. Numerous attempts on Retry to no avail. Mike Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted March 24 Share Posted March 24 Restart the computer and immediately try to upgrade? Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Matt Panzer Posted March 24 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted March 24 2 hours ago, Pat Stanford said: Restart the computer and immediately try to upgrade? @Michael Siggers, I would also try what Pat said. 👆 Quote Link to comment
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