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In every office I have worked in, and all the plan sets I have looked at a simple surface mount incandescent light fixture symbol (I know they are on way out) in 2d plan view looks like the fixture in the middle.  While VW symbol is the one on the left.  Meanwhile the simple circle  often indicates a recessed fixture. I like that VW puts the R in recessed, why not a P in the pendant instead of a black filled circle which then resembles what the majority use for smoke detectors?  

Does anyone use these symbols or do you just use your own?

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