Despite the 2D/3D issues and missing profiles I highlighted last month I persevered with the tool to try and make it work for me, hoping that it would speed up general arrangement drawings. Unless I'm missing a trick and need a rigorous training course on how to properly use it, I don't consider it at all fit for purpose.
Lay out a column grid, and then link together with beams, try to move the beams in the z-axis, and then the columns disapear to a flat poly.... but only some of them! others move in the z also, and some don't move at all.
Cannot change start and end elevation values in columns with any degree of predictablity... enter a value and sometimes nothing changes.... somtimes the original value returns... Drag the column in the Z axis, and the values leap around all over the place, enter new values, and suddenly it changes to a whole new value which you didn't enter, nor drag to!!
Linking beams together I've found to be very touchy and unpredictable and sometimes links are broken for no reason... Beams linked into columns causes really odd behaviour on editing.
Using the resize handles give you a nice orange preview of what to expect, but when you release, the member leaps to a whole new, undesired and incorrect position, again with strange numbers appearing in the OIP boxes. Start and end conditions change at random, so suddenly they go from automatic to custom, and unless you're constantly monitoring the OIP during editing, errors easily creep in.
The Member ID box appears to be a dumb value and won't warn you if you're repeating a number, I might as well use record formats instead of this.... This tool could be great... I.E. edit a beam numbered B1, then all the B1's change to suit... Change a Beam to B2, and you have a new one to play with, but at the moment I can number every different beam with the same number... Passive which is a real shame, should ideally be similar to the drawing number co-ordination.
For live work, this tool is a massive liability! My models become real steel orders and ultimately a real building, so not only do I consider this very risky when ordering thousands of pounds worth of steel, but also, the potential exists of putting lives at risk. (But hopefully no-one will ever get that far!!!)
What sort of time scale is expected for the tool to come out of beta? Is it likely to be a service pack or wait until 2018 for a complete release?
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Despite the 2D/3D issues and missing profiles I highlighted last month I persevered with the tool to try and make it work for me, hoping that it would speed up general arrangement drawings. Unless I'm missing a trick and need a rigorous training course on how to properly use it, I don't consider it at all fit for purpose.
Lay out a column grid, and then link together with beams, try to move the beams in the z-axis, and then the columns disapear to a flat poly.... but only some of them! others move in the z also, and some don't move at all.
Cannot change start and end elevation values in columns with any degree of predictablity... enter a value and sometimes nothing changes.... somtimes the original value returns... Drag the column in the Z axis, and the values leap around all over the place, enter new values, and suddenly it changes to a whole new value which you didn't enter, nor drag to!!
Linking beams together I've found to be very touchy and unpredictable and sometimes links are broken for no reason... Beams linked into columns causes really odd behaviour on editing.
Using the resize handles give you a nice orange preview of what to expect, but when you release, the member leaps to a whole new, undesired and incorrect position, again with strange numbers appearing in the OIP boxes. Start and end conditions change at random, so suddenly they go from automatic to custom, and unless you're constantly monitoring the OIP during editing, errors easily creep in.
The Member ID box appears to be a dumb value and won't warn you if you're repeating a number, I might as well use record formats instead of this.... This tool could be great... I.E. edit a beam numbered B1, then all the B1's change to suit... Change a Beam to B2, and you have a new one to play with, but at the moment I can number every different beam with the same number... Passive which is a real shame, should ideally be similar to the drawing number co-ordination.
For live work, this tool is a massive liability! My models become real steel orders and ultimately a real building, so not only do I consider this very risky when ordering thousands of pounds worth of steel, but also, the potential exists of putting lives at risk. (But hopefully no-one will ever get that far!!!)
What sort of time scale is expected for the tool to come out of beta? Is it likely to be a service pack or wait until 2018 for a complete release?
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