Tom Klaber Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Can we really not do elliptical walls? Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted October 4, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 4, 2016 Not really. Round Wall objects are always restricted segments of a perfect circle. Convert to Walls can sometimes create the separate wall segments needed to cover this, but tight elliptical turns have no clean solution yet. Quote Link to comment
0 Tom Klaber Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 So our very first BIM project is a renovation and addition to this traditional house that has the elliptical walls with windows. How does VW recommend I handle this? Quote Link to comment
0 Vectorworks, Inc Employee PVA - Admin Posted October 4, 2016 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted October 4, 2016 Looks like the last chat about this was quite a while ago, some suggested workflows here: Quote Link to comment
0 Tom Klaber Posted October 4, 2016 Author Share Posted October 4, 2016 Thanks. Quote Link to comment
0 zoomer Posted October 4, 2016 Share Posted October 4, 2016 Jonathan Pickup has one Podcast Show dealing with a simplyfied example, just 2 radius Walls but looks ok and explained how to construct, solve geometrical problems, on his youtube channel. And I think there are ways to control how fine a nurbs curve will be devide into Arcs, which can be used to create "Object from ... => Walls" 1 Quote Link to comment
0 Tom Klaber Posted October 6, 2016 Author Share Posted October 6, 2016 Just curious about why this is a difficult engineering problem to solve. Probably because math. But I feel like walls should be able to follow any poly line or curve. Now that we have all this cool sub-d and deform tools - walls should be made out of the same goo and be able to be any shape we need them to be. 1 Quote Link to comment
0 William Jackson Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Two radius solution should get you there.... Quote Link to comment
0 zoomer Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 There are many Apps that let make things like Walls or Railings follow any curve or vertical orientation. I think the difference is that VW seems to create a polygon on the ground plane and extrude it vertically, while others use a vertical Shape to extrude it along a path horizontally. That may be coming from optimizing for simplified Top Plan View and finally the way how Wall Joining is realized. Generally beside Curves and NURBS, everything in VW seems to be Arcs only. Regarding how often a spline curvature is needed in Architecture and the options to workaround that with custom geometry I think this is bearable. Zaha Hadid offices should go to Rhino + VisualARQ though. Did some testing and see there aren't much options for curved geometry in general And Create Objects from Shapes does not work as expected in VW 2017. Used an Oval and a converted Nurbs Curve. Interesting geometry though. Quote Link to comment
0 Tom Klaber Posted November 15, 2016 Author Share Posted November 15, 2016 12 hours ago, William Jackson said: Two radius solution should get you there.... The problem then is windows and doors that need to straddle those joints. I think it will just have to be build from an extrude. Quote Link to comment
0 Taproot Posted November 15, 2016 Share Posted November 15, 2016 Tom - we just battled this issue on a project. The design is based on a turtle (Hawaii), so we used an ellipse as the base geometry. Ultimately the best solution was to use round wall segments AND an extruded exterior shell. The segments worked fine in plan and section, but the elevations were terrible. It meant subtracting solids wherever there was an opening, but the result worked pretty well. 4 Quote Link to comment
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