digitalcarbon Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 my bad mood keeps getting worse. the reality is that vectorworks (i am assuming its true with other software) cannot really handle well viewports made from the model. that is why it relies heavily on top/plan hybrid junk. just think of how slimmed down vectorworks could be if all the sheets and sheet tools were stripped out of it and we just conveyed information by means of a model. 1 Quote Link to comment
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rDesign Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 I can't tell you the number of times I have seen residential / commercial contractors scaling off 2D printed drawing sheets with a tape measure: The need to create 2D printed construction drawings will not go away anytime soon. Quote Link to comment
P Retondo Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Digital, those are nice drawings - but what is the difficulty you are having? Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 (edited) Some design software company (cough cough) wanting to distinguish itself from the pack and push the construction envelope, needs to sponsor a test project: Start on a small residential project and involve only one sub who normally relies heavily on prints, eg the the foundation crew or the framer. But ultimately test a bigger commercial or multi use project. No paper sheets allowed - starting with precon all the way to permit sign off. Load the model into some kind of viewers available on/off site to all the consultants, sub contractors, inspectors, all. Tablets? Laptops? Head sets (finally, a ligitimate use for GoogleGlass)? Model should have all of DM's innovations. Viewer hardware and software needs stable navigation, measure, and annotation. There must already be many sponsored projects out there used as test platforms for goods and equipment. A BIM project would test the design process, the model, the on site software and viewer equipment, effects of weather, build quality, trade worker response to new process, safety, efficiency/cost, all sorts of things. I know, in my dreams. -B Edited September 27, 2016 by Benson Shaw Quote Link to comment
rDesign Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 One very important part that is not being addressed in this 'pie-in-the-sky' thread — is that most local building departments still require printed 2D drawings for building permit applications. Most of them also still require the drawing sheets to be wet-stamped and wet-signed, so they won't even accept PDFs. At least this has been my personal experience here in California; It will be a long time before the local authorities and contractors will buy into a totally digital project delivery workflow for architectural / building construction projects. My 2 cents. 1 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 P Retondo, there is a massive bug in the section cut for 2017 that is not allowing me to have an OpenGL section cut. this is what i was banging my head against in trying to get the sheets done. rDesign, the solution to the hard copy for city officials is to produce just enough sheets and stamp them to make them happy but everyone else builds off the model. somewhere someone is doing it. please see: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfYJYymZLuS2orahu-0UneA Quote Link to comment
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