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5 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said:

Now that renderworks is included - how does that affect the Service Select pricing?  

All questions about pricing should go to sales, because the pricing structures are different for various users I can't discuss it publicly. (Also I'm very likely to get it wrong and I make enough of a fool of myself already ;) )

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(Website Issue Heads-Up)

It appears that there is a small issue with the vectorworks.net/2017 page.  The log-in button only works if you are the very top - when it transitions to the sticky header it loses its links.  

 

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6 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said:

The Renderworks video mentions the ability to create panoramic images - does this include the full 360 images that can be viewed in VR or any 360 panno viewer? 

I think it's referring to the exported VR webviews, they're a full 360 panoramic environment. However I'm not entirely positive, I didn't work directly on the super flashy videos. 

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3 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said:

(Website Issue Heads-Up)

It appears that there is a small issue with the vectorworks.net/2017 page.  The log-in button only works if you are the very top - when it transitions to the sticky header it loses its links.  

 

Reported! Ty.

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One I wanted to draw attention to earlier, check out Interior Elevations:
 

 

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This is a game changer.  The interior elevation has been one of the major sticking points and road blocks to building full models.  It seemed crazy to have to try and crop 4 section viewports for every room.  I am not ready to give this whole BIM thing a fair shake.

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I think "Modernize the data pane of the Object Info Palette" is another great improvement!! Direct field input!

KM

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If I open up the file that the symbols are in  and pick the symbol as part of the current drawing it will show in the preview panel but if I go down to the same file as shown in my libraries section it doesn't work.

Odd.

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@JimW- on the Interior Elevations OIP, do the check-boxes for North, South, East & West reflect the direction of project North as set by a Heliodon?

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6 minutes ago, rDesign said:

@JimW- on the Interior Elevations OIP, do the check-boxes for North, South, East & West reflect the direction of project North as set by a Heliodon?

No. There was much debate about this, but since it is possible to add two or more heliodon objects and give them different "Norths" this wasn't a reliable choice, so it assumes North is Up in a non-rotated top/plan view.

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1 hour ago, Chris Gentry said:

Any migration tips or issues to watch out for?

Keep an eye on your multi component Slabs.
Improved 2017 Boundary Options may collide with your previous settings in complex boundary situations.
May require a new, advanced Setup.
 

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this morning (loaction netherlands) i download the 2017 installer for the mac and it works fine later this afternoon i want to download the windows version for my pc laptop  but now on the vss site its show the 2016 installer? What can i do?

Edward

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1 minute ago, TBR said:

this morning (loaction netherlands) i download the 2017 installer for the mac and it works fine later this afternoon i want to download the windows version for my pc laptop  but now on the vss site its show the 2016 installer? What can i do?

Edward

Please direct message me your VSS ID and I will have the Service Select team take a look. Might be the distributor's settings or it might be your account.

 

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Might be like for me yesterday, where the SSSite still showed the VW 2016 Banner,
but sent the VW 2017 version anyway.

I think it's worth a try a download and check your Download folder if it may be a file
including 2017 in its name - as it was for me.
If not you can cancel anyway.

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4 minutes ago, zoomer said:

Might be like for me yesterday, where the SSSite still showed the VW 2016 Banner,
but sent the VW 2017 version anyway.

I think it's worth a try a download and check your Download folder if it may be a file
including 2017 in its name - as it was for me.
If not you can cancel anyway.

Hi Zoomer,

I check that and the file is a 2016 installer

i have send a mail to designexpress and i will call them tomorrow

thnx

Edward

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I haven't put 2017 through its paces yet but my first impressions are that this is the best update we got in a long time.  I am a long time user that has grown very frustrated with this software and the direction of its development but I must say this update has given me hope again.  For that, I thank the Vectorworks team for a job well done, and I thank Jim especially for his dedication to give us a voice to help make things better with his honest and fair moderation of these boards.   Now in saying that.  There is still a long way to go and as a result of my renewed hope,  I'm going to be riding you guys all year long to make sure we keep going in the right direction :D

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5 minutes ago, Altivec said:

 There is still a long way to go and as a result of my renewed hope,  I'm going to be riding you guys all year long to make sure we keep going in the right direction :D

Never stop ;)

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I like the new custom Cabinet tool.  That is something that would have been touted in years passed as a press worth addition - now it is buried deep in the help files.  

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17 minutes ago, Andrew Davies said:

Any one know whether VWX2017 will work on macOS Sierra - the new version of OS X due for release in a couple of weeks or so?

Currently just 10.10 and 10.11, the instant I have news regarding 10.12 I will post it.

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24 minutes ago, Tom Klaber said:

I like the new custom Cabinet tool.  That is something that would have been touted in years passed as a press worth addition - now it is buried deep in the help files.  

We'll be making a feature video on it and give it the treatment, we ran so short on time (there were boatloads of features as many have notices) that we had to split some off to be made after release. Drop Shadows, pen/fill separate opacity control, and a bunch of other stuff is on the way.

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7 hours ago, JimW said:

Attached is a complete list of the tasks that went into Vectorworks 2017. (I'm using an attachment because it would be an insanely long forum post.) If you have any questions about any of the specific tasks, give me the name or Id and I can explain them in full!

vwtasks_22 (2).xlsx

Thanks for sharing!

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11 hours ago, JimW said:

If you DON'T use the Migration Assistant, you'll need to add the brand new menus and tools via the workspace editor, but otherwise I have not heard of anything else.

@JimW- is this correct that if you DO NOT use the Migration Assistant you have to manually add the new 2017 menus and tools to the default workspaces?

I thought it was the reverse, where you'd need to add the new tools to your migrated custom workspace.

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7 minutes ago, rDesign said:

@JimW- is this correct that if you DO NOT use the Migration Assistant you have to manually add the new 2017 menus and tools to the default workspaces?

I thought it was the reverse, where you'd need to add the new tools to your migrated custom workspace.

The techs were telling me there is an issue related to the Migration Assistant and the new Spotlight tools specifically, however in the end it is fixed by either adding the tools manually after migration or removing the ones migration did add, then adding them back manually.

Supposedly the migration assistant is supposed to add some of the new tools for you automatically if they simply didn't exist before your workspace was created, but this doesn't seem to be completely true. It certainly isn't dangerous in any way and doesn't endanger files or work, it's just something that is supposed to be automatic ending up being done manually. Going to get specifics tomorrow and get everything filed as soon as possible if it isn't already known. SP1 for 2017 already has a crazy huge list of planned fixed items, something like 238 which is much higher than normal so I'll see if this stuff wasn't already filed.

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I'm looking forward to seeing what the new 'Cut Plane for Design Layers' can do:

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The "CUT PLANE FOR DESIGN LAYERS" task will improve users' ability to draw architecturally correct floor plans for buildings.
Users will define a "Cut-plane elevation" property for a Design Layer.
This property will control the way Walls and objects inserted in them are drawn. 3D Wall features and Auto-hybrid objects will, when placed on a layer with a cut-plane, adopt that cut-plane property to unify the appearance of the floor plan.

From the Help File:

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Enable Cut Plane at Layer Elevation
(Vectorworks Architect required)

The cut plane is the intersection of an imaginary XY plane and object geometry. This option enables cut plane display for the following items on the layer: auto hybrid objects, walls and curtain walls (including the objects, like windows, that are within the walls), structural members, and wall features. When enabled, set the cut plane elevation.

 

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