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52 minutes ago, Mattsaxon said:

however when I select for example Switch Navigations (or any other tool) to assign to a button, it initially appears as assigned to the button and then immediately the text disappears leaving the box next to the button blank.

 

Perhaps that may help :

 

 

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15 hours ago, Luis M Ruiz said:

@Mattsaxon

Since you mentioned you had v2017, here is my troubleshooting first recommendation.

 

Plan A-

Download the latest 3dconnexion driver.

Migrate your custom workspace

Edit custom workspace, now, since you skipped two versions, plenty of new tools and menus are missing from your 2017 workspace.

 

Plan B - Start a new custom workspace from scratch but pay attention to those shortcuts that you are used to.

 

For me jumping from 2018 to 2019 was all about adjusting my workspace, from 2017 to 2018, I created a new and fresh custom workspace, typically for me is a copy of Architect.

 

Is it tedious? Well, I find it to be not an immediate task, but it is something I take care of only once a year. Is it worth it? totally.

Sorry Luiz I didn't see your reply last night I was busy pulling my hair out over this 3d mouse issue, yes I will build myself a new custom workspace as you say there are lots of new tools that I don't want to miss by simply migrating I also find a refresh of your workspaces is a good time to unlearn some bad habits and introduce new ways of working.

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Hi All I wanted to post here about my problems with my Space Pilot Pro and VW2019 so that if anyone else has been having difficulties this might help and full credit and thanks to Zoomer for this solution which he suggested in reply to my posts yesterday. 

 

This for me fixed the problems I was having - There were no Vectorworks specific tool options available to map to the Space Pilot Buttons and when there were I could not make them 'stick'. With this fix I now have a full list of tools supported by this mouse and they stay mapped to the buttons I assigned them to.

 

I am originally a Mac user so to me a computer was a shiny aluminium box with a nice apple logo on that just did what you wanted, then I turned to the dark side and bought a PC:) anyway the point is I am not comfortable playing around with system and program files so when I read Zoomers post suggesting the solution to my problem I wasn't very keen, but I had no other option to try it and it worked. I have posted a screenshot of the file I had to alter so others can see what is involved but I must stress please make sure you have a backed up hard drive etc. I am only showing what I did to fix this I am not an IT expert and do not recommend this to anyone unless they are confident they understand what they are doing. 

 

Step 1: follow this path - C:\Users\user name\AppData\Roaming\3Dconnexion\3DxWare\Cfg

Step 2: Locate a file named Vectorworks2018.xml

Step3: Copy and paste this file in the same location and rename as Vectorworks2019.xml

Step 4: Using Notepad open the file and edit it wherever it says Vectorworks2018 or Vectorworks2018.exe change this to Vectorworks2019 and Vectorworks2019.exe and save and close the file.

Step5: Launch VW2019 and then open the 3d Connexion properties. You should hopefully now have a full list of tools supported by your controller under the Vectorworks drop down and these tools should now assign correctly.

 

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2 hours ago, Mattsaxon said:

Step 1: follow this path - C:\Users\user name\AppData\Roaming\3Dconnexion\3DxWare\Cfg

Step 2: Locate a file named Vectorworks2018.xml

Step3: Copy and paste this file in the same location and rename as Vectorworks2019.xml

Step 4: Using Notepad open the file and edit it wherever it says Vectorworks2018 or Vectorworks2018.exe change this to Vectorworks2019 and Vectorworks2019.exe and save and close the file.

Step5: Launch VW2019 and then open the 3d Connexion properties. You should hopefully now have a full list of tools supported by your controller under the Vectorworks drop down and these tools should now assign correctly.

 

Haha,

far more understandable than my redundant text wall.

Thanks

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A distilled version, did you have issues setting macros I found I had to write all my macros first and then assign them to buttons, otherwise each time I wrote a new macro for a button the buttons I had already assigned switched back to their defaults, not a big problem just another bit of odd behaviour. Thanks again for your help.

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I really really don't understand why the properties panel for 3d Connexion on a PC is so basic versus the Mac version - no options to load plugins or add applications, and the lists for macros etc are nothing like you have on your screenshot. When I first installed the 3d Connexion software on my PC I honestly thought I must have a lite version!

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Well, at least I can finally see nice colored Icons on my PC.

 

At least for Bricscad, which basically offers the whole Workspace Folders

with every Tools.

But what I think is also better is that Macros are saved by App. On Mac you

have to control their order by prefixes to be able to find them and as you

have text only that looks bad on your display.

 

Macro Features itself are very limited. And the need to have an open App,

to be able to edit the settings is just one more of these lacks in details that

Windows - and its Software - has on all ends.

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Something I have been meaning to ask on here is wether Enterprise is a significant improvement from say as space pilot pro? I mainly use keyboard shortcuts for tool selection and have an Elecom mouse with 8 programmable buttons that takes care of my most frequent commands. Does Enterprise offer any further benefits beyond the ability to access tools and commands - My use of the space pilot pro is almost completely focussed on its use to navigate and my use of the buttons is all about switching between custom views, projection and navigation modes and rendering modes, does the increased capabilities of Enterprise offer so much more functionality that it has made people step from keyboard shortcuts across to using the controllers buttons?

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Well.......When all is needed is to fly around and through models for presentation purposes, then my small bucket is cool enough.  If it's production at someone else's office then my middle companion does the job well. My big friend over here is my goto device for serious production, especially on any Friday before 5:00 pm.  🙂

 

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I use the middle option of those three and find it completely adequate - don't feel the need for more buttons. Then again I'm a bit lazy about assigning shortcuts and remembering what they all are, so maybe the visual display would get me to make better use of them.

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The Problem for me with a standard Space Mouse would be similar to my

empty-button-only Wacom Remote.
Either I use the same button assignments for all Apps, or I would always

forget what I had assigned to the buttons.

Enterprise lets you at least look on the display to see what you assigned.

Like for an App that you used the last time 6 months ago.

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Luis you have the 3D connexion version of "the ascent of man"! I think I am probably in line weights position, I have even gone to the effort of programming the left hand side numbered buttons to trigger various tools but the instinctive memory of keyboard shortcuts seems to embed so much faster than the same shortcuts on the controller, as zoomed said maybe the addition of the full LCD screen is the final element that helps to make that functionality applicable.  I love the change that a 3D controller has made to my way of working and visualising my designs but have always felt that I haven't been maximising the other potentials of the space pilot other than navigation maybe I might use the move into multi views as a push to make more use of the assignment of the buttons.

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For shortcuts, try including Multiview, switch to iso and perspective view, clip cube and for the cherry on top, add boolean operations and rendering modes to the radial buttons, these make my days super fun. 

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Radial menus add another whole level of functionality! Actually something I want to explore as an exhibition designer I use a lot of classes for frame systems and panelling etc, also layers to set heights for frames and panels and switch between these constantly when I'm building up a stand. I had tried using my mouse buttons to toggle up and down layers and classes but using the pilot buttons or radial menus to directly select a layer or class would be a real benefit to my workflow.

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