# Move element relative to document origin?

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This seems like a simple thing... hopefully its something obvious that I'm just missing, but there are times I'd like to move the position of an element to a point in the drawing relative to the document origin, but the element doesn't have the option to modify the X, Y, Z coordinates in the OIP. Groups of objects are a great example of this.

Is there a way to take a group or other element that does not have the X, Y, Z coordinates in the OIP and move it relative to the document origin?

For example, in a front elevation, I'd like to take a group of 3D polygons or symbols, and move them such that the bottom of the group rests at 0' 0" off the floor.

Hope that makes sense!

Thanks,

Joel

For x and y the workaround is to group objects. As long as you're in top/plan the group has x and y co-ordinates which relate to the bounding box of the group. There's no Z solution that I know of other than using a symbol.

Kevin

Bugs me, too when the xyz is not available in 3d views.

Kevin's idea of symbol should work. Select the object(s), Create Symbol, Move the symbol via OIP xyz or by drag or Move by Points. If needed, Convert to Group, and delete the symbol from Resource Browser.

Another idea, use some guide objects:

Place two 3d loci - one in start location, the other in target location. Group the objects needing relocation and use Move by Points to move the group from locus #1 to locus #2. One or both loci could be inside the group.

Some arrangements may work with the Align Command.

Group the objects if needed. Place a 3d locus at z=0 (or other value).

Apply the command > Align Bottom.

The locus stays in position and all the other objects move up or down to align bottom with locus.

-B

I want to add that I want to SCALE things relative to origin.

F.e. the content of Symbols relative to symbol origin or

selected elements from user origin.

Benson, I like that you're using the 2d align command too.... the 3d align command needs some work. It doesn't have the flexibility of the 2d version. It would be nice if both had an "relative to axis" checkbox for sitting things centred/above/below the ground plane or relative to any other axis...

KM

Kevin, how have you used the 3d Align? 2d is my "go to" for Align. I'm too used to switching to a standard view and using Cmd= to engage the Align command, so almost never interact with the 3d Align dialog. The 3d align looks especially useful for working in non standard working planes, but I have not needed yet.

Not sure how you mean relative to an axis. Does adding a 3d locus or locked object do what you are describing? The 3d locus stays in place and becomes a reference object defining the min, max and ctr. for the selection in the 3d Align. Same behavior in the 2d Align. This was "discovered by accident" in my case. Although I found out later it is well documented in VWX Help.

Help languished on my hard drive for all those versions with Adobe Air(head). I mostly ignored it. At my own peril, apparently! It's waaay better now.

-B

Benson,

I was saying I almost always use 2d align like you. I use it a lot.

Thanks for the tip about the locus, I didn't know about that....

When I say relative to axis, I mean the x/y/z planes. If the origin were a selectable, locked locus it would do the same thing in standard views.

The origin isn't even snap-able that I know of...

Kevin

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