Editing Mirrored or Flipped Extrudes

[willofmaine]

When you create an extrude, it seems that whether the shape you start with is in the working plane or the screen plane, it automatically becomes a planar shape on its own working plane within the extrude.

When the extrude is rotated, this working plane moves with the extrude, and the extrude can be edited and the planar shape modified in it’s three dimensional context (with “Show other objects while in editing modes” turned on).

However, when the extrude is either mirrored or flipped, its planar shape seems to end up on the layer plane, with no context whatsoever.

I wish, when mirrored or flipped, that the planar shapes of extrudes would retain their working plan and the ability to edit them in their three-dimensional context… VWIS031

[Andy Broomell]

Yes please! Along with the ability to edit mirrored Symbols in context.

[PVA - Admin]

Submitting request now.

[willofmaine]

Thank you!

[archdaly]

Did this feature ever get added to the functionality of VW?

 

Furthermore, is there any way to change the plane of a mirrored extrude so it remains in context relative to other objects?

Edited October 23, 2019 by archdaly

[Bas Vellekoop]

On 10/23/2019 at 8:22 PM, archdaly said:

Did this feature ever get added to the functionality of VW?

 

Furthermore, is there any way to change the plane of a mirrored extrude so it remains in context relative to other objects?

 

Never been added, please vote up to get it higher on the wishlist.

 

You can mirror it back, this makes it context relative again, but that is probabilly not what you want.

[zoomer]

I do my Facade Panels by Extrudes containing multiple Rectangles.

You should never move, mirror or rotate the Extrude.

And even when you draw your 2D Geometry already in place and orientation,

after some time of work in Editing Mode only, the Extrude starts to get corrupt.

 

Drawing Rectangles or may still be reliable,

but things like Dragging or Move/Copy by Points lead to strange results.

Like not copying a selected Rectangle but moving all non-selected ones

for the given amount or changing the Position of everything inside vs Environment

(Maybe the bug is instead just the showing a dislocated Environment, I don't know,

But I know that Undo will not help for these unwanted relocations)

 

Or strange flipping of Length and Width of the Action Center Gizmo in OIP when

editing Rectangle's dimensions.

Or VW Rulers getting yellow tint while trying to dargsnap a Rectangle..

I think that Extrude XXX Plane is so complicated that even VW itself doesn't

understand or controls the relationship between the Extrude Plane and

real world ... ahh ... internal origin and its axes.

 

I wish so much there wouldn't be any Screen Plane and Extrude Plane in VW

beside internal 3D WCS and CS of Symbols.

Extrudes should behave like groups and VW get fully 3D at one time.

Edited March 4, 2020 by zoomer

[avro-designs]

How is this still an issue in version 2023? Symmetry and mirroring are key parts of design. Vectorworks is wildly inconsistent with basic drawing principles. 

[Erik3d]

Version 2025... still the same.