Mirror + alt = mirror copy

[Vincent C]

Please let the mirror tool also work together with the Alt key to give a copy.

[Kevin McAllister]

I have wished for this before. Consistency is key. Also for the move/copy by points tool.

Kevin

[PVA - Admin]

Well Alt is already relegated in those types of tools to allow selection/deselection of objects after the tool has already been activated.

Is the wish that Alt should instead toggle the mode while pressed and another hotkey be used for selection? or just that there be a modifier that allows temporarily changing the tool's mode?

[mike m oz]

You can use the U key to toggle between tool modes during a drawing or edit operation.

ie. you can start the operation and then toggle the mode to the required one using the U key and then complete it with that mode.

[zoomer]

I think the problem is the legacy OS X setting that

STRG + LMB = RMB

I have other software that ignores that as you can't

do 3D very good with a one button mouse.

Beside that STRG would be a nice Key for Selection,

meaning (-) Deselection only.

SHIFT meaning (+) additional Selection only

(Not deselect when selecting again !!!)

And the ALT setting as it is now, as an option to select

all things touched by the fence instead of included by

the fence,

Could be in the U-Options like Rectangular/Lasso/Polygon

as an "Inner"/"Overlapping"/ and even "Outer" Mode

Edited October 14, 2014 by zoomer

[Vincent C]

Well Alt is already relegated in those types of tools to allow selection/deselection of objects after the tool has already been activated.

Well that is strange because for me the Cmd key has always done this as the default out of the box setting in Osx?!

So I stand by wanting the alt key to be held down for copying.......

[zoomer]

I realized that the ALT Key makes Selection to select

objects just touched by the frame.

[Vincent C]

You can use the U key to toggle between tool modes during a drawing or edit operation.

ie. you can start the operation and then toggle the mode to the required one using the U key and then complete it with that mode.

The backside of this is that it requires me to move my eyes first to the U key then to the mode bar to see if the correct mode is active and subsequently i don't notice an unintentional shift of the mouse that often ends in a faulty mirror line (the alt key i can find without having to look for it). In addition to this the tool then has a different mode when exiting from what i want.......

Edited October 15, 2014 by Vincent C

[PVA - Admin]

Well Alt is already relegated in those types of tools to allow selection/deselection of objects after the tool has already been activated.

Well that is strange because for me the Cmd key has always done this as the default out of the box setting in Osx?!

So I stand by wanting the alt key to be held down for copying.......

Sorry, forgot that it was flipped on Mac and Windows. ALT duplicates on one and CTRL on the other. Always annoying setting up hotkeys for both since they have different key sets that cant be changed depending on the OS.

[Kevin McAllister]

I stand by Vincent's wish and my addition. Alt/Option is duplicate in various other applications as well.

(I also think that U is clunky and on the wrong side of the keyboard for a mouse based workflow. Yes, I know I can change it....)

KM

[Vincent C]

Sorry, forgot that it was flipped on Mac and Windows. ALT duplicates on one and CTRL on the other. Always annoying setting up hotkeys for both since they have different key sets that cant be changed depending on the OS.

It must be quite frustrating for you to need to flip between os's and constantly do this wrong Jim

[Vincent C]

I also want the alt copy function to work for Rotating!

[zoomer]

If it makes sense to reserve the ALT for copying then for all

modification tools.

[Kevin McAllister]

Yes, yes, yes, rotate too!

KM

[PVA - Admin]

Submitting request now, I am trying to think of why it was reversed on the two OSes to begin with... especially since we were Mac only until just before MiniCAD 7.

[Kevin McAllister]

I thought it was reversed because of standardization for each platform. Option (Alt) is pretty standard in Mac software for duplicating while performing a function. Can't really speak to a PC.

Kevin

[PVA - Admin]

PC is a bit more random when it comes to hotkeys, depending on the application you're using. The Adobe line is pretty consistent but elsewhere developers tend to pick their own.

I think the Mac side had more interest in keeping consistency much earlier in the developmental stages of the personal computer and that has carried over through the years.

[MarcU]

On 14.10.2014 at 2:36 PM, Vincent C said:

Please let the mirror tool also work together with the Alt key to give a copy.

 

On 15.10.2014 at 8:56 AM, Vincent C said:

I also want the alt copy function to work for Rotating!

 

I would also highly appreciate these features. I could also be ctrl or shift for me, I wouldn't care which. The Move tool works similar for me allready: I use it for allmost all duplicating jobs with reference point, just by holding down ctrl. The U-key thing I also pretty clunky. It is all about having a standard setting (i.e. no duplicating) and controlling duplicating by temporarily holding down a key, like as mentioned above in Adobe.