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Dimension Exterior Walls - Whats the Point?


Rob NZ

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I am drawing an addition and need to draw the existing floor plan.

The exterior dimension tool could be so useful!

but so far I have found it to be really useless!

The walls are brick veneer, and it will only dimension to the outside of the veneer or inside the cavity, both of which are a bit dumb really!

I have tried to draw with just framing walls and then replace with brick veneer, but they just move to the outside of the veneer or in the cavity.

Also it will dimension to the "T" junctions but these are not associative.

Can someone please tell me I am missing a trick here.

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Rob Nz,

As I am sure you are aware, these are our current options.

You are able to dimension to the extents or center lines of walls.

T wall joins do not associate, although the options lead one to believe they will.

I agree that the dimension exterior wall tool needs improvement.

We should have the ability to;

Dimension to any exterior wall component

Dimension to any T wall component

OIP should be able to change these options once dimensioned

As we mainly do residential remodeling, the dimensions to wall surfaces (sheetrock, etc.) are what we need.

Also to be able to dimension to edge of opening trim is needed.

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One way that comes to mind is using the wall core as your trace line or control line.

You could set the wall stud or sheetrock depending on your needs and use the core component control line mode as your wall trace line.

This way you are drawing the wall as you need to.

You could also use Custom Control Offset.

See attached image.

Red marker is Custom control Offset.

Blue marker is Core control.

You do have walls defined (stylized &/or classed)as New, Existing, Demo?

You might need to draw existing walls dimensioned to inner wall surface.

You might also need to draw new walls to either finished interior surface or to face of framing (stud) member.

Most framers do not account or allow for inner wall surface.

Their world is rough (face of stud) to face or centerline of stud for interior partitions.

Make sure you denote which is which on your drawings if so needed.

HTH & FWIW

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Hi Rob,

I was just playing with the tool, and I notice that if I turn off my wall component classes which have the brick veneer on them, the veneer turns off and the tool successfully dimensions to the outermost "visible" material (the sheathing in this case). If I turn on the brick veneer class again, the tool will dimension to the outside of the brick.

The wall styles we use are all set to have each components be on their own class, thus controlling visibility.

(and please forgive me if I miss-understand what you are trying to accomplish.)

Matt

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I think the main reason it doesn't support components is because it was an older feature, added long before walls were able to have components, or styles of any kind. It also predated associative dimensions sticking to wall joins properly.

Relocating this thread to WishList and submitting a request.

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Hi Rob,

I was just playing with the tool, and I notice that if I turn off my wall component classes which have the brick veneer on them, the veneer turns off and the tool successfully dimensions to the outermost "visible" material (the sheathing in this case). If I turn on the brick veneer class again, the tool will dimension to the outside of the brick.

The wall styles we use are all set to have each components be on their own class, thus controlling visibility.

(and please forgive me if I miss-understand what you are trying to accomplish.)

Matt

That works!

That is exactly what I am trying to do, thanks!

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