Bruce Kieffer Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Is there any shape that doesn't covert to a NURBS curve when you make an extrude along path? I want to use a rectangle, and then edit the path and change its size in the OIP. Can't do that with a NURBS. Quote Link to comment
Kevin McAllister Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 If the rectangle is oriented so it looks like a rectangle in plan there is a workaround. After the EAP is created, go in and edit the path object. Switch to plan view. Group the rectangle. Change the size of the group in the OIP. Ungroup the rectangle and exit the EAP. Most certainly a work around but may help you in this specific situation. I wish the path object didn't change to a NURBS. Thankfully the profile object had its code updated a few versions back so it no longer converts too. Kevin Quote Link to comment
Benson Shaw Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 Another workaround assuming a planar path and frontal view of it: During path edit I sometimes create/paste/trace a new 2d object, then delete the NURBS. Or convert the NURBS to poly. The new object can be edited with OIP and other tools. Of course it converts to NURBS when exiting the edit. -B Quote Link to comment
Bruce Kieffer Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Agreed the problem is that VW converts the shape to a NURBS. It would be better if VW retained the original shape for history mode editing, and then at exit did what ever it needs to do to make the EAP. Instead we have to do the work! Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 This issue is that the path doesn't have to be planar (and it's often useful when it's not planar), so it needs to be a nurbs curve. mk Quote Link to comment
Kevin McAllister Posted August 19, 2013 Share Posted August 19, 2013 But the EAP is smart enough to convert any planar object that is used to replace the path during editing. This says to me that the path could ultimately be anything if the programming were better. Convert it internally without affecting the user's original path object. This would allow you to suit your path object to the intended application and retain edit-ability. When it was originally added I'm sure it was considered very powerful. But user expectations have changed. (When it gets updated there should also be options to use a symbol as the profile curved, among other things....) Kevin Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Kevin I would really love to be able to use 2D symbols as profiles. With the object insertion point as the 0,0. mk Quote Link to comment
taoist Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Kevin I would really love to be able to use 2D symbols as profiles. With the object insertion point as the 0,0. mk Yes, no more edit symbol > copy > exit symbol > paste. Would be great if we could set the profile insertion point before using EAP. Quote Link to comment
Chris Fleming Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Maybe I'm missing the point here, but I use symbols as profiles all the time. I've saved my molding profiles as 2D symbols, with the "convert to group" option selected. Works like a charm. Granted, I still have to edit the profile to set the insertion point, but there's no need edit the symbol and copy and paste. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Chris I do the same thing (except I have the symbol set to insert as a group, so there is no need to convert). I'd like the EAP to be able to use the symbol as a profile so I can edit the symbol later, rather than go to each EAP and replace the profile. mk Quote Link to comment
Kevin McAllister Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Being able to set the insertion point during creation would be a great upgrade to EAP. Its almost never where you need it and its not super intuitive which direction it needs to face (I would guess its dependent on the direction of the NURBS curve which would be determined when converting planar path objects). Kevin Quote Link to comment
Chris Fleming Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 Ahhh! I WAS missing the point. Michael my symbol definition also inserts as a group, but the value of retaining the symbol definition was lost on me. Being able to simply modify the symbol, would allow me to change ALL moldings, project wide, rather than having edit each individual EAP profile. I want it. I want it yesterday! LOL! Quote Link to comment
Bas Vellekoop Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 (edited) Imagine putting several different profiles/symbols with different classes in the same eap, while everything is a symbol. then we are able to create in a simple way more complex objects like: floors, roofs with components and the gutter etc. roads with sidewalks. It would become so easy to create and edit... Edited August 22, 2013 by Buzz Lightyear Quote Link to comment
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