Bruce Kieffer Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I need to draw some 3D plumbing pipe with fittings. I took a quick look at the MEP, Fasteners, and Detailing Tool sets and I don't see what I need. Is there a library of plumbing pipe fittings for the resource browser? Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) are you talking sch 40 pvc? what size? Edited March 26, 2013 by digitalmechanics Quote Link to comment
Assembly Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I don't know any good resource I built my own, the script is a bit rough so not really for general public. If other users think this looks like a good tool, I would be happy to give it to NA to develop properly. Edited March 26, 2013 by Assembly Quote Link to comment
Bruce Kieffer Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 Pipe I need to draw is mostly PVP and cast iron. Quote Link to comment
Bruce Kieffer Posted March 26, 2013 Author Share Posted March 26, 2013 What does the VW pipping run tool do? The icon indicates that it makes 3D pipe, but I can?t get it to do that. Assembly, Thanks for the link. Making the pipe is less of a concern to me than making the fittings, and that tool seems like overkill for my needs. Quote Link to comment
Assembly Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 Pipping run has been there for a long time. I think it is supposed to be used as a mark up tool. It is not 3D as far as I can tell. Quote Link to comment
Bryan G. Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 Yes Bruce a piping tool that generates 3D can be set for size and type and also set invert of pipe at beginning, end and at intervals would be a massively wonderfully addition. Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 pipe tool concept (what it should do) how it might work (docking rings) the above videos were submitted to vw some time ago 2 Quote Link to comment
Bruce Kieffer Posted March 27, 2013 Author Share Posted March 27, 2013 digitalmechanics, Great presentation! This is absolutely a tool that NA needs to add to VW. What was the response you received from them when you sent your presentation? Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 at the time, it was mentioned that as set of 3d constraints would need to be developed before doing something like this. keep in mind that this was not in any way an official response. just someone musing 1 Quote Link to comment
Popular Post jakez Posted March 8, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted March 8, 2017 Wow, four years ago. Has there been any developments here? I'm looking for exactly what that digitalmechanics video layed out. 5 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) since then I have developed my own library of pipe fittings & just build all my runs manually... any tool would need to accommodate any symbol vs having a set of fittings to pick from...this ability to insert fittings would make it universal.. by using the 3d space navigator with the VGM (working in perspective) I have been putting together piping systems for a few years and gotten comfortable with it... placing a slope in a pipe system is still the killer problem...it can be done but you really need to think about it... 3d models from McMaster Carr SDR35 Pipe above (models made by careful research of product information) ADS N-12 Pipe above (models made by careful research of product information) Edited September 9, 2020 by digitalcarbon 3 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 (edited) a argument AGAINST a piping tool is if you have parts of the pipe run with special fabrication... note the images below & ask yourself: How would this fit into a piping tool? When making a BOM how do separate straight runs with the special fabrications? The straight runs are labeled with orange. all others are products, vendor or fab Also note the Fernco fittings Q13...How would they work with a pipe tool? So in hindsight. I would not use a pipe tool for most of my work... the image below would not be included in the over all pipe order since it is now a product of the fabrication shop...that is their concern and you just order the product.. Edited January 29, 2020 by digitalcarbon 2 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 This now leads me to a fundamental discovery...the more precise the model is the more you can get out of it...so when I do direct modeling (symbols snapped to other symbols) ...I get exactly what I want with no fussing about later... the key to success is having the proper tools for symbol management...such as: 1. Make vps directly from symbols with no need to place symbols on layers to make vp 2. Have "playlists" and not folders in the resource library. this would allow you to have a symbol in several playlist. Ex "playlist Phase 1" "playlist fabrication" 3. Have the ability to do subtractions of symbols..this would allow you to make "symbol products" then when you cut a hole in it the computer will still count that you need that original product (realizing that you order the product BUT cut a hole in it latter in the field) 2 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted January 29, 2020 Share Posted January 29, 2020 Also it seems like with the invention of the VGM and the 3d space navigator these fundamental items have eliminated the need for a pipe tool... This is worth noting because the VGM/3d Connexion benefit all disciplines whereas a piping tool would be for a select few... the 80/20 rule seems to be applicable here...so keep focusing on the core 20% Quote Link to comment
Itchy Posted September 9, 2020 Share Posted September 9, 2020 On 3/27/2013 at 9:26 AM, Assembly said: I don't know any good resource I built my own, the script is a bit rough so not really for general public. If other users think this looks like a good tool, I would be happy to give it to NA to develop properly. Not sure if you are still around @Assembly, but did you develop this any further by any chance? Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 so I have a library of ABS & PVC fittings in 3d...was thinking of making the library free to all... the fittings library would be in Onshape. but you could download and import with ease...parasolids work the best as they keep the center snaps.. the library is not complete...you would need to post a comment in Onshape asking for any missing items... since this is provided free then It takes a back seat to my main work This is what an imported object looks like in VW 102 Reducer 3x4 HH PVC Import.vwx who is interested? 4 Quote Link to comment
bc Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 1 hour ago, digitalcarbon said: since this is provided free then It takes a back seat to my main work Not sure what you mean by this but I would be interested. bc Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 what that means is i share the library free with you...its a work in progress so if you see a fitting that is not in the library then you post a comment in Onshape making a request...then i will model it and add it to the library...but since i'm doing this for free I may not get to it for a few days... Quote Link to comment
zoomer Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 I do not really have projects that could make use of these parts. But from what I have seen in the past, @digitalcarbon, literally "Warehouse" of visually"BIMmed" parts library, should offered world wide, cross platform, creative commons, on a curated platform and get a Unesco cultural heritage award 🙂 4 Quote Link to comment
bc Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 INDEED! Thanks for the offering. Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted April 22, 2021 Share Posted April 22, 2021 (edited) nothing beats direct modeling...VGM & 3Dconnexion Space Nav 23-27 39 00 Pipe Concrete copy.vwx Edited April 22, 2021 by digitalcarbon 2 Quote Link to comment
LeandroStu Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 En 29/1/2020 a las 9:36, digitalcarbon dijo: DR35 Pipe above (models made by careful research of p En 29/1/2020 a las 9:36, digitalcarbon dijo: 3d models from McMaster Carr Can you please share the entire library that you made? Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 23-27 39 00 Pipe PVC IPS.vwx 3 Quote Link to comment
digitalcarbon Posted September 10, 2021 Share Posted September 10, 2021 23-27 39 00 Pipe SDR35 Multi Fittings.vwx 3 Quote Link to comment
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