Guest Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 We have been getting reports of certain people having problems with the Shift-Click function. The problem goes like this - Select an object. Hold down the Shift key. While holding down the Shift key, select another object. The first object is then deselected. If you are a victim of this problem, please include the type of computer/OS/version of VW and Carbon Lib (if necessary). Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment
TiTaNiuM sAMuRai Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 Never:OS 9.1 9.2 X.1-X.1.5VW9.0.1, 9.5.0b5&7, 9.5.1, 9.5.2iMac (blue) G3 ...unless you don't hold your mouse still long enough when selecting the second object. Quote Link to comment
ionw Posted September 12, 2002 Share Posted September 12, 2002 No problems here. 16 stations 9.5.1 to 9.5.3b1 os 9.2.2 to 10.2. 7 B&W G3s, 1 yikes g4, 4 "sawtooth" 2 digital audio two Quicksilvers and one cube Quote Link to comment
pedro Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 yup. i thought that was a feature....! three or four restarts in the morning usally allieviates the symptoms. PowerMac G4 450OS 10.1.5VW 9.5.2Carbon Lib: ? (see Other Post "dimension Demensia") Quote Link to comment
suzanne Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 what about click and then drag a selection marquis and everything else is then deselected? Quote Link to comment
Cloud Hidden Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 Never. OSX 10.1.5. Sometimes the clicks have trouble seeing past the top object to select one further back, but not what you asked. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 We're are trying to track down the folks with this problem. I haven't had many calls about it and we have not been able to duplicate it in house. So I am on a mission to find what similarities there are for folks with this problem. thanks guys!Hopefully more people will share. Quote Link to comment
Bryan_dup1 Posted September 13, 2002 Share Posted September 13, 2002 I have that happen along with another goofy thing. The select handles (little black boxes on the item) sometimes reverse in that they are visible when the item is not selected and invisible when item is selected. I've gotten used to it and have thought it was a monitor card issue. Quote Link to comment
landarch Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 I haven't had that problem, but I have been having problems with v9.5.3b1 on OS10.2. Vectorworks unexpectedly quits all of the time. It usually happens when I am trying to copy information from file to another. It's not just a few of my files either, it is all of them. So when I work I have to try and never copy any thing. It is a real pain! Any suggestions? Is this a known bug that is going to be fixed? Quote Link to comment
Donald Wardlaw Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Sometimes, when it seems something like this happens, I conclude that I am simply breezing along to quickly, on auto pilot as it were. I always imagine that the problem was that in moving quickly, I click just before I hold down the shift key. Donald I have never stabbed my forehead with an icecream cone, ....really. Quote Link to comment
broesler Posted September 14, 2002 Share Posted September 14, 2002 Katie-Shift+click works OK to add to selection,Shift+Option+Click does not (de-selects previously selected items). Bob RoeslerMac OS 10.1.5VW 9.5.2CarbonLib 1.6 (but that doesn't have anything to do with OS 10x (or does it?) The Shift+Option+Click behavior of 9.5.2 is one of the main reasons I still use 8.5.2 as precise selection of multiple items in complex drawings is a daily need. I have posted several time regarding this. Thanks for looking into what I consider a problem, though others have said it is not. Quote Link to comment
ruud van de meent Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Katie, shift+click works fine, Win2000 + PentiumIII Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Landarch - This is something we are aware of. Please see the string about OS 10.2 and VW 9. We have also noted this along with the readme at the 9.5.3b download page. Quote Link to comment
SQE Posted September 16, 2002 Share Posted September 16, 2002 Yikes! I am having problems with the shift-click issue. I am on a Quicksilver 867/10.1.5/VWSpotlight 9.5.2 Wow...glad I am not the only one. This one has been kicking my butt! Thanks! Quote Link to comment
SQE Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Well, last night I upgraded to Jaguar and then applied the VW update and my shift-click appears to be working again...I'll report back if anything changes! Thanks! Quote Link to comment
pedro Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 katie, i may have some news on this click shift issue. i switched monitors with suzanne because she claimed mine was fuzzy and she no longer needed hers. when i connect my CPU to her old monitor i get her click shift problem. Meanwhile, her CPU is cured with my old monitor. I get another monitor (from a third machine) and connect it to my CPU and i no longer have the click shift. In this office, i can begin to conclude that suzanne's old monitor was the culprit. it seems to be a long shot but i dont know that much about video/ monitor stuff to really asses these facts and draw any other conclusion. the monitor in question is a viewsonic GS773 series. the two working ones are Viewsonics G773 and E773. i'm going to run a couple more tests at lunch to see if this holds anymore water. as fun as this is i have to get back to work. pedro Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted September 17, 2002 Share Posted September 17, 2002 Thanks Pedro. I passed the information on to the engineers who are currently looking into this problem. Quote Link to comment
austins Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 iMac 800 mhz G4 os 10.2.1 VW 10.0.0 carbon lib(it doesnt say under the os x system folder, my carbon lib for os 9 is 1.6) We have another identical system running VW 10, also, without the shift click problem. I thought I was losing it. I hadn't used VW since 8.6; I was scared that shift-click had been offed like a Sopranos support character. Please email me with any progress, or if there is NO progress. Thanks, Austin al@kovacarchitects.com Quote Link to comment
austins Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 It's true what they (pedro) say. The remedy was multiple restarts. I quit the application and restarted it. Same woes. I restarted. Same problem. I restarted again. All good. Also, pre- miracle, the option-click did not work either. I didn't try many more combinations than that. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 The shift+click thing under OS 10 is a problem not only with our application, but several other applications. Usually restarting once should remedy the problem. Sometimes, a single restart or shut down/start up won't fix it, and you might need to do it as amany as 3 times. I've also seen this happen in OS 9 and VW running in Classic Mode under OS 10. Quote Link to comment
MikeN Posted November 7, 2002 Share Posted November 7, 2002 Never happens to me. Quote Link to comment
Stuart Gray Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 I'm not sure if this is exactly the same problem. When I drag a marquee around multiple objects to select them everything is ok. However if I then decide to select some more objects very close to the original ones, ie. press Shift and then drag another marquee box if I go over any of the previously selected objects they get de-selected! This didn't happen in VW 8.5.2. We are running VW Architect on Windows XP Professional, 1.9Ghz PC's, 512MB Ram, 64 Mb NVidia Geforce 3 Ti200. Quote Link to comment
matto Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 hey Bryan the thing with the selections handles showing or not showing when there should check if you have multiple copies of of the same object on top of each other. often causes by not having offset duplicate objects selected. or option clicking objects. what this does is you have an even number of indentical object selected the selection handles don't show up. odd number and they do. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted November 8, 2002 Share Posted November 8, 2002 Stuart, The program is working the way it's intended to work. There was a change between 8 and 9 for this. Alot of people complained that the shift select didn't work the way it did in other applications and wanted us to conform to those other applications. If you hold the option key down while marqueeing, anything you touch with the marquee and anything inside will be selected. This might be a better way to select objects that may be hard to select. Also, there is a lasso mode for the 2d selection tool allowing you to draw a lasso freehand style around a group of objects you wish to select. Quote Link to comment
Nathan Posted November 16, 2002 Share Posted November 16, 2002 I am having this problem. Also it can take a couple of goes selecting objects using the marquee. By the third try you get them. Restart fixs it every time. Dual 1.2 Os 10.2.1 VW 10 Quote Link to comment
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