Plan view of stacked windows/doors

[Bill Reehl]

I have a tall wall with fixed glass windows above sliding glass doors. I used the window tool to insert the windows into the wall above the doors. I tried sending the windows to the background so that I can view the doors in plan view but that did not work. Is there a way to do this?

[CipesDesign]

The best way I've found is to use two walls in two design layers (just like a two story bldg). That allows for more visibility options. I have sometimes shown a clerestory wall, in Plan View, as a partial Plan, referenced/detailed on the same sheet as the Floor Plan below. I also generally show the window layout in Elevation, for clarity.

[VincentCuclair]

I have 3D classes for this purposes (i.e. Doors-3D; Windows-3D etc), put the objects you don't want to view in Top/Plan view in this(these) classes, this way you can show/hide them as you wish and also control the way they look with the class settings and overrides......

Peters method is good if you need to show specific wall details etc. for the clerestory windows however it includes slightly more work.

(Move to Front should work...strange it doesn't for you, are you sure both window and door are inserted in the wall, have you tried Send to Back for the clerestory window......try inserting the object you want to see, last....)

[Bill Reehl]

Thanks, I find the responses on this forum to be extremely helpful.

[Jonathan Pickup]

i wish we had aa lot more control over the cutting plane for walls. i have projects with lots of doors and windows on top of each other, i end up drawing a 2d plan so that contractor can read it. This should be easier

[P Retondo]

I use Vincent's class assignment approach. I also have a class called "Overlay" which allows me to dot in clerestories ("Convert copy to lines" performed on the window to get the objects) when we don't want to show a cut in the wall.

[VincentCuclair]

("Convert copy to lines" performed on the window to get the objects) when we don't want to show a cut in the wall.

Sounds like extra work to me...

You do know there is a setting in the OIP for Windows/Doors where you can set how the window is inserted into the wall don't you ? Among them is 'no break' and 'break without caps'.....if this is of any help, this way both 3D and 2D are still correct.....

It is also possible to place a window in the correct place however without it inserting into the wall (deactivate the correct button on the mode bar) however this means the 3D won't look correct because the window won't be visible.

Edited January 16, 2013 by Vincent C

[Jonathan Pickup]

but with out the correct 3D, the elevations are useless....

[Jonathan Pickup]

No Break does not work, the window is still shown in plan, but not in 3D...

Clerestory does not work, the window is dashed, but still shows in plan. I have a case with a clerestory over a cavity slider, and i can't see the door correctly.

[majamotion]

Setting the clerestory window to "No break" in OIP worked for me. The lower Door/ Window showed correctly in plan and the clerestory showed dashed. 3d also works correctly.

[Andrew Woolman]

If you set the upper window(s) to be "clerestory" in the Object Info Palette (OIP), it/they will show up in plan as simplified dashed line windows in the wall, without breaks (no need to select "no break" in the OIP (I don't even know what that would be for!).  If you don't want the dashed lines to show, create a class called e.g. WINDOW-CLERESTORY, put those windows in that class, and then turn that class off when in Plan view.  You will then only see the lower windows and the lower wall breaks.
As to how to generate a non-dashed plan view of the clerestory windows, well I'm not there yet.  Stay tuned.