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VW2013 teaser...is this the best you've got...?

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If this is the feature Tamsin chose to highlight...it doesn't bode well for more major improvements...

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If the short video really shows VW 2013, then I must say that it's slower than what I see in VW 2012 today, that's really really bad, especially because the video goes about speed.

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And how can speed be a feature anyway? Every progam just need to try to do things as fast as it can, it can't be a feature, it's one of the basic things.

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A previous post was hoping that the Attributes and Object Info palettes will be integrated in some way for 2013 -- naaah, hasn't changed at all.

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Well....this is a welcomed change for me. VW2012 is so bad on a macbook pro it's not usable. I've been waiting for them to address the zooming issue since 2008. Let's hope it works.....

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Not much of a tease.

After VW2012 it is going to take something a heck of alot more impressive to get me to part with any cash.

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I agree.

Speed is not a feature. And if that is the best that they can come up with, I am gravely concerned. I am one of the suckers that sprang for Service Select.

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I'm with Ride.

It's about time they featured the un-featuring of the Graphic Delay "Feature" introduced with Vectorworks 2009.

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ja, its true.

Speed is not a Feature, but without speed features are worthless.

Panning zooming and the use of the Flyover tool is very clunky. Even in

just halfway Complex scenes.

It is high time, that the Open GL Dinosaur, that presented the "Lack of Memory" message is renewed.

What Tamsin Presents seems to make VW usable.

but I agree: This improvement should have been part of an update.

My guess:

Tamsin presented that improvement as a her #1, because the daily workflow/usability specially in 3D and panning zooming is now wearying,

and if it works in VW2013 like the Video shows, that will be a big relief for almost every moment of using VW.

My Hope:

There will be a couple of well thought and fully tested and working new features specially in the 3D modeling part.

The experience/doubts:

New (real) features has always needed 1 or 2 Versions (and therefore Years!) to come close to the expectations caused by the promo.

I'm sooo curious.

Edited by Horst M.

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I'm all for improved speed, but I'm hoping that "improved pan performance" isn't actually the most-impressive update. Is there a chance that this might be related to implementation of multi-core/multi-thread processing (for background rendering, etc.)?

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Is there a chance that this might be related to implementation of multi-core/multi-thread processing (for background rendering, etc.)?

Hopefully it is indicative of general improvements / fixes on that front. When parasolids was introduce Biplab Sarkar revealed the underlying state of Vectorworks in an Architosh interview when he said "our code goes all the way back to the mid 80's" in reference to better performing softwares.

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We'll see.......at least it's faster in one new way......that's always positive.

Perhaps the beta testers are also limited in what they are 'allowed' to reveal....

Edited by Vincent C

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and if it works in VW2013 like the Video shows, that will be a big relief for almost every moment of using VW.

?? On my pc here at work VW2012 works way faster than what I can see on the video. I really find that strange. What they do have solved is that it doesn't redraw at points, so it does look more fluid, but it's not faster from what I can see.

Guesse I have to wait and compare once the demo is out.

Edited by DWorks

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Trust NemV to make something a "feature" that's not. Anyway this type of redraw was available in vw11 [not vw2011] until they took it out ever since.

Also NemV usually has 1 major feature per release so I don't think vw will be challenging Revit anytime soon. For vw to match Revit, it will have to have 5-10 major features in this release alone. Anyway we'll see.

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Unfortunately that video failed to excite me.... actually feeling a bit depressed now after watching it... if that is the best they have got.

A welcome improvement, but I was hoping for quite a few big improvements this year in Vectorworks, especially to help with modelling, like materials, live sections etc, there seems to be no additional tools on the palettes (although they might be hidden) .

Maybe VW have concentrated their efforts on getting rid of the bugs and making things work as they should this year, but thats going to put them further behind the competition in the BIM race.

Guess we will have to wait to the 18th and see if they have any big surprises

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I see the catch phrase for v2013 is "evolve".

Is it really possible to feel disappointed before it's even released?

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LOL...The beginning of the evolve has started to be written backwards, lets hope that isn't happening!

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First create a problem then market a solution to fix it... Many a major company/product is founded on this strategy.

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Please feel free to show a sneak preview of automated window schedule elevations instead. This would help me programme my workload for the next couple of weeks. ;)

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I see the catch phrase for v2013 is "evolve".

Is it really possible to feel disappointed before it's even released?

Thats a good one.

may be its a reversed marketing strategy than in the past.

Lower the expectations in advance, so the the shock with the reality is

not so hard..

Edited by Horst M.

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Please feel free to show a sneak preview of automated window schedule elevations instead. This would help me programme my workload for the next couple of weeks. ;)

+1

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Nested classes.

ubbthreads.php?ubb=download&Number=7941&filename=nested-classes.png

Very good catch! And a very good welcoming thing! Maybe this means that the resource browser..... (stop wishing things)

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