Manual slabs and cutting in walls

[Christiaan]

Do slabs only cut into walls if the slab is bound to a wall?

Edit: Argh, weird, auto-bound slabs aren't cutting into walls either. Well sometimes. Sometimes they are.

I've already developed a deep hatred of Vectorworks this week and it's only Monday.

Edited July 23, 2012 by Christiaan

[Peter van der Elst]

Did you setup your slabs correct? ie. the boundary per component set for inside wall for instance? Don't know the exact english word, I'm using dutch. But the wall seems to cut in the slab and the slab cuts the wall.

I hope I explained it clear enough? Good luck!

[Christiaan]

Thanks Peter, I'm having trouble narrowing the problem down. I think there may be graphical glitches related to another problem but this morning I've experimented with one slab and noticed that I have to bind the slab to the wall that overlaps it (which in this case are the walls on the storey below) in order to get the slab to cut the walls.

Is this really how it's meant to work? I thought slabs were meant to cut any wall that overlaps the slab, regardless of which walls the slab is bound to.

Slabs are set to bound to outer face of core wall component. They're doing that, they're just not always cutting into the wall.

[Christiaan]

Here's an example of the manual slab not cutting into walls. Am I doing something wrong here?

I'm expecting the structural slab on C2-2-Structural Slab to cut into the first skin of the blockwork cavity wall. And the screed on C2-2-Floor to cut into the lining of the cavity wall. (without auto-binding)

[Christiaan]

After a periodic crash I opened up my section file and updated the viewport. Now ALL slabs (bound and unbound) are not cutting into walls again.

This is just f'ed up.

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Slabs only cut out the walls they are bound to.

One of the reasons the structural and finish slab are best to be drawn seperatly.

Personally, I think it would be better that slabs always cut out every wall. It would be so much easier.

Edited July 24, 2012 by DWorks

[Christiaan]

Thanks Dieter, so what do you do where you have an manually drawn slab sitting into an external wall? You don't offset the the height of the core wall component do you?

[Christiaan]

Any ideas on why I can't bind the slab to surrounding walls in the file attached to my post above?

Edit: And the other problem still exists. I had the slabs cutting into bounding walls and then after a crash they stop cutting into the walls. It's just a joke.

Edited July 24, 2012 by Christiaan

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Thanks Dieter, so what do you do where you have an manually drawn slab sitting into an external wall? You don't offset the the height of the core wall component do you?

I bind all of my slabs to the walls that need to be cut. Sometimes it's just a matter of drawing your walls in such a way that you can do this.

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Any ideas on why I can't bind the slab to surrounding walls in the file attached to my post above?

I could bind the slab, after I remade the two lower wall-joins.

[Christiaan]

I could bind the slab, after I remade the two lower wall-joins.

This is why we hates Vectorworks!!

[Christiaan]

Any ideas on why I can't bind the slab to surrounding walls in the file attached to my post above?

I could bind the slab, after I remade the two lower wall-joins.

Any ideas on how to tell which wall joins are the bad ones? I thought maybe Top View might give some hints, but not that I can see.

(just about spent the entire day creating slabs, as a result of having to re-join so many walls and clip slabs, etc. Crazy)

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Any ideas on how to tell which wall joins are the bad ones?

Nope, it's guessing work. Really sad, I know....

Maybe trying to move a wall and see if the joins stay? Should try this myself.

Edited July 25, 2012 by DWorks