grant_PD Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Wondering if anyone else has seen this or knows what the problem is: I select the window or door tool and move my mouse over to insert it into the drawing space or wall. By the time my mouse moves over into the drawing space....the cursor moves back to just being a selection tool. It's like the tool call fails and it just reverts. Quote Link to comment
Yoginathaswami Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 Aloha, Grant: I just tried it. It works fine on my Mac. Quote Link to comment
Jonathan Pickup Posted September 24, 2011 Share Posted September 24, 2011 does the same thing happen in a blank file? do you have a class called Door or Window? Quote Link to comment
nbahnij Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I am also having this problem. It does not work in a blank file or the current file. All my classes are turned on. At this point the only way I can create a door is to copy a door I made before we upgraded to 2012 and change the settings. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 Do you have a class or a layer or a symbol named Door? VW is very picky about it's name space. You can't use the same name for multiple things. You can't change the name of the Door object, so you will have to change the name of your other things. Quote Link to comment
nbahnij Posted November 4, 2011 Share Posted November 4, 2011 I have layers, classes and symbols with the word Door in it, but nothing named just "Door". Quote Link to comment
Trillian Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have this problem as well, on a blank file as well as on my current drawings. Infuriating. I've tried re-installing but no joy. I'm new to these forums - do Nemetschek check the problems here or is there somewhere I should report it to? Thanks. Vectorworks Architect 2012 SP1, Mac OS X - 10.6.8. Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Did you check that "Wall Insertion Mode" is active?? (In the top left of the VW's window, in the Mode Bar...) Quote Link to comment
Trillian Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 It's exactly as grant_PD described it here By the time my mouse moves over into the drawing space....the cursor moves back to just being a selection tool. It's like the tool call fails and it just reverts. I can't even get the little dotted door to appear on the cursor. As soon as you mouse over the document window, it defaults back to the select tool. I did a little experiment... if I click the door tool and then bring the cursor carefully up to the toolbar with wall insertion mode etc WITHOUT going over the drawing area (so up vertically along the tool icons and across horizontally), it stays in door mode and if I click on any of the tools there (Standard Insertion Mode, Offset Insertion mode etc), Vectorworks crashes spectacularly. PS Thanks for the reply Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 A long shot: Do you have dual screens? If so try moving the Building Shell tool set onto your main screen Quote Link to comment
Trillian Posted November 8, 2011 Share Posted November 8, 2011 Interesting one but no, I'm on a MacBook Pro here. 8GB of RAM too so I don't think it's a memory issue. I tried installing both Metric & Imperial libraries when reinstalling in case it was looking for a library that wasn't there, but no joy with that either. The OP was on a PC so it seems odd that it's a cross platform problem. Quote Link to comment
John Kiska Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 It's exactly as grant_PD described it here By the time my mouse moves over into the drawing space....the cursor moves back to just being a selection tool. It's like the tool call fails and it just reverts. I can't even get the little dotted door to appear on the cursor. As soon as you mouse over the document window, it defaults back to the select tool. I did a little experiment... if I click the door tool and then bring the cursor carefully up to the toolbar with wall insertion mode etc WITHOUT going over the drawing area (so up vertically along the tool icons and across horizontally), it stays in door mode and if I click on any of the tools there (Standard Insertion Mode, Offset Insertion mode etc), Vectorworks crashes spectacularly. PS Thanks for the reply I'm having the exact same issue as described above, and I too did the same little experiment described above getting the exact same results, Vectorworks crashes spectacularly. Has anyone talked to Tech Support about this issue? Quote Link to comment
Trillian Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Hi John, I'm a previous Microstation user and the Bentley staff monitor their forums answering queries so I hoped it was the same here. Anyway, I've just filled out a support request form via VSS so hopefully I will get an answer soon. If I do, I'll post back here. Quote Link to comment
nbahnij Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) Ok I think we figured out a solution. You need to go to your workspace editor, tools tab. On the right side under Palettes delete the door command under the Tool Sets, Building Shell. Then, from the left side under the Tools, Building Shell drag the Door command back to the right side in the same place you originally deleted it. I think you have to do this for a few commands in 2012. I know we had to do that for the space planning tool also. Hope that helped. Edited November 9, 2011 by nbahnij Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Judah Warshaw Posted November 9, 2011 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted November 9, 2011 If you copied over your 2011 (or earlier) workspace files to your 2012 install, then this behavior will occur. There were some internal updates to the door and window tools that cause this. Deleting and re-adding the tool as described fixes the problem. Quote Link to comment
Trillian Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 Thanks for the replies. I did as suggested, and thankfully I now have a working door & window tool. However, I got an error message saying "The following Plug-ins are not in the Plug-ins folder: Raum aus Waenden CW Stake Object, Raum CW" etc etc. I checked and these are in the correct folder. Are there other issues with the old workspace we should be worried about? Would I be better off starting a new workspace altogether? Quote Link to comment
nbahnij Posted November 9, 2011 Share Posted November 9, 2011 We ended up just starting a new workspace from a 2012 default. Since we had a couple of other issues like what you said. The one I remember being the space tool. The deleting and re-adding to the tool in the workspace editor seems to fix those errors, but we did not want to take a chance we were missing other subtle changes. Quote Link to comment
John Kiska Posted November 10, 2011 Share Posted November 10, 2011 If you copied over your 2011 (or earlier) workspace files to your 2012 install, then this behavior will occur. There were some internal updates to the door and window tools that cause this. Deleting and re-adding the tool as described fixes the problem. Now that you mentioned this I did do exactly that. I deleted my old Workspace and created a new one based on a copy of the standard Designer Workspace, and now I'm back in business. All tools functioning as expected. Thanks to all for your comments. Quote Link to comment
Tom G. Posted November 13, 2011 Share Posted November 13, 2011 I took screen shots of my existing tool arrangement while in the workspace editor in v2011. Then, as I rebuilt a new custom Basic Tools palette in v.2012, I had a visual template which really helped me get back the tool arrangement that I've come to prefer. Tom Quote Link to comment
jwouie Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi all, I seem to be having the exact same problem that Grant (the original poster) wrote about. I'm using VW2011 so I'm not sure the problem is the same as what nbahnij and Judah Warshaw are talking about above... but I went ahead and did the Workspace Editor fix anyway. Problem is still occurring. Grant -- Did you ever manage to fix your problem? I don't see a follow up post from you.... Quote Link to comment
CipesDesign Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Julia, did you double check to make sure that "Wall Insertion Mode" is active? Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Julia, Do you have a problem inserting doors/windows into walls or inserting them into a drawing at all? The first I thought was just a VW2012 problem fixable by the workspace trick. The second is usually the result of having something else (often a layer or class) with the name Door or Window. VW can not handle different objects with the same name. So if you create a Class called Door you can then not insert any Door objects into the drawing. This also applied to record formats (I think). Quote Link to comment
jwouie Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Hi Pat, The problem was inserting them at all. Whenever I chose the Door tool, it would revert to the Selection tool as soon as I moved the cursor over the drawing space, as Grant described. The strange thing is that I can use the Window tool just fine. I was originally working on a DWG drawing that I'd imported.... I tried it on another drawing, with a lot fewer components and it was still giving me the same problem. I just started a new document and it seems to be working fine in the new document. As for class/layer/object names, I don't have any named just "Door" but I have a couple classes with names that contain the word "door" so perhaps that was the problem. Quote Link to comment
Monadnoc Posted December 30, 2011 Share Posted December 30, 2011 Julia, My guess would be that the DWG you imported has something in it named "Door", thereby causing the problem. Monadnoc Quote Link to comment
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