Dutch gables

[mar schrammeyer]

vw2010 makes a dutch gable no problems but 2011 tells me my gable inset is invalid whatever value I put in, anybody else have a problem there?

[mike m oz]

Yes. Please bug submit your problem roof mar.

[CipesDesign]

Hi Mar, No problem here on 2011. See attached. I did however notice that if you choose "dutch gable" and hit OK without changing the defaults you will get an error of the type you describe.

[mar schrammeyer]

It is a mystery problem gone thanks for the replies

[bc]

Still a bit of a question though.

Probably nomenclature but I thought there was a difference between a dutch hip and a dutch gable. Original post asked about a dutch gable and Peter shows a dutch hip.

I have sketched a simplified roof form comparison which I attached. Could someone set me straight if I am wrong?

Thanks. I just might have been living an illusion....but I thought a dutch gable was a gable that was truncated and a dutch hip was a gable basically attached to a hip roof.

Edited July 19, 2011 by bc

[taoist]

Dutch Gable:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_gable

http://buffaloah.com/a/DCTNRY/d/dutchgable.html

http://smallglassplanet.blogspot.com/2011/06/random-norfolk-dutch-gable.html

taoist

[CipesDesign]

Interesting. Thanks taoist!

[taoist]

That double hip that bc is showing, is referred to in some circles as a bullnose hip.

taoist

[bc]

Thanks taoist for the insight.

Sorry if my hand sketched perspective mislead.

What I called a dutch gable (my drawing on the right) is really a truncated gable not a double hip. See attached elevation:

Edited July 19, 2011 by bc

[Bob Holtzmann]

Still a bit of a question though.

Probably nomenclature but I thought there was a difference between a dutch hip and a dutch gable. Original post asked about a dutch gable and Peter shows a dutch hip.

I have sketched a simplified roof form comparison which I attached. Could someone set me straight if I am wrong?

Thanks. I just might have been living an illusion....but I thought a dutch gable was a gable that was truncated and a dutch hip was a gable basically attached to a hip roof.

The Dutch Gable type you are suggesting is actually a Mansard type roof.

Edited July 19, 2011 by Bob-H

[bc]

No. The gambrel or barn roof is not truncated.

Here's the other side view:

[bc]

And not a mansard either since Side View A would show the faces of two roof planes and Side View B would show only one.

Not like this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansard_roof

[Damon Design]

We call that a jerkin head gable or clipped gable around here.

[bc]

That's what I was trying to remember...clipped gable. Sheesh.

Thanks Tad. But jerkin head is pretty good, I must say.

[mar schrammeyer]

Dutch gable is used here (Oz) for dutch hip in VW talk but originally it would have been a comment like jerry built, dutch courage etc

[conner]

It is a mystery problem gone thanks for the replies

[adamjedgar]

you definately got them two around the wrong way. a gable is flat end the hip is...well as the word says...a hip!

[bc]

When I use the term dutch gable or "clipped gable" I am referring to how the roof presents which is mainly as gable. The clipped or dutch adjective provides the hip acknowledgement.

Whatever works where ever you are.