Christiaan Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Pretty cool scheme: http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/07/steve-jobs-cupertino/ Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Looks like they got the before and after overlay wrong. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Looks like they got the before and after overlay wrong. No, the iDonut is new. HP's box buildings and parking lots are existing. Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted June 8, 2011 Share Posted June 8, 2011 Actually it's the crop that is wrong Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 If you can call it wrong, the "after" picture has the right edge cropped narrower, compared to the "before" picture. Am I getting warmer? Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Well yes, the scale and the crop are different, giving the illusion that the after green-space is greater than it actually is. It is a cool design however - and a cute twist with the apricots. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 It's interesting and good to know that SJ is a 'local', he comes across as a nice guy. The graphics look incredibly crude for such a cool outfit but the building looks good if just a tad unadventurous, I would have liked to see the donut sliced through or disjointed at some point to link the inside space with the outside world rather than a 'secret garden just for employees AJ Quote Link to comment
cad@sggsa Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Have not read through it all, but where is everybody going to park? They had 9500 employees with 9800 parking spaces. The new one has 13000(+40%) employees with only 1200 parkings (-90%) So they all going to walk to work then. Great on the enviroment. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 I would have liked to see the donut sliced through or disjointed at some point to link the inside space with the outside world rather than a 'secret garden just for employees AJ I watched the Cupertino City Council meeting with Steve Jobs, and he indicated a portion of the building having a full height cafe for 3000 persons, with some connection to the outside of the building. The curved glass facade is somewhat interesting, but will need some lower level detailing to add human scale. The Apple Stores used large sheets of glass for the sides, but used features like glass stairs to add human scale. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted June 9, 2011 Author Share Posted June 9, 2011 Can't say I'm a huge fan of the Apple Store glass stairs. In terms of sophistication they're a bit like the original translucent plastic iMacs, which, while fun, look like a toy next to today's iMacs. Quote Link to comment
D Wood Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Early days I guess, but it doesn't seem to be a very "green" design. These days it seems de riguer to have solar water heating, photovoltaics on the roof, water collection and treatment on site, no air conditioning, etc., etc. Anybody know who are the ?great architects ? some of the best in the world? who came up with this? I wonder if there's a continuous corridor all round and staff will tear round and round on super-charged Segways? Quote Link to comment
mar schrammeyer Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 particle accelerator Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 Anybody know who are the ?great architects ? some of the best in the world? who came up with this? I wonder if there's a continuous corridor all round and staff will tear round and round on super-charged Segways? A related question on the great architects ... are they Mac computing offices? And if so, will it be on Vectorworks or Archicad? Drawing-wise, the walls, floors and roofs should be really easy to model, because everything is a 360? sweep around a common center locus pt. Quote Link to comment
Horst M. Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 (edited) These days it seems de riguer to have solar water heating, photovoltaics on the roof, water collection and treatment on site, no air conditioning, etc., etc. I like that a lot. Late enough.... Specially the need of airconditionig is major indication for disfunctioning Architecture that wastes a lot of Energy. just my humble opinion. Horst M. Edited June 9, 2011 by Horst M. Quote Link to comment
bcd Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 chances are the glazing will be intelligent Quote Link to comment
Stan Rostas Posted June 9, 2011 Share Posted June 9, 2011 The architects used Revit for this Building as well as the new iCloud Data Center in North Carolina, it was a requirement! Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share Posted June 10, 2011 Anybody know who are the ?great architects ? some of the best in the world? who came up with this? My guess is Norman Foster. Quote Link to comment
Bob Holtzmann Posted June 11, 2011 Share Posted June 11, 2011 The architects used Revit for this Building as well as the new iCloud Data Center in North Carolina, it was a requirement! This news is not pleasant at all, considering that Autodesk (a California company like Apple) has always treated Mac users as 2nd class citizens. Quote Link to comment
jrhartley Posted June 12, 2011 Share Posted June 12, 2011 (edited) Pretty cool scheme: http://techcrunch.com/2011/06/07/steve-jobs-cupertino/ really? seems like a pretty crude scheme to me - how to maximise your circulation distances and external envelope, whilst simultaneously annexing as much land in the middle (because you can). add to that the facade treatment which appears identical for the diameter of the building (demonstrating how little thought has been applied to site specific environmental considerations), I'd tend to disagree that this is a cool scheme. To my mind, it looks like a two second sketch which has been (badly) rendered up. Edited June 13, 2011 by jrhartley Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted June 13, 2011 Author Share Posted June 13, 2011 really? seems like a pretty crude scheme to me - how to maximise your circulation distances and external envelope, whilst simultaneously annexing as much land in the middle (because you can). If you judge a scheme simply by its external envelope-to-foot print ratio then I imagine you might come to this conclusion, but the space in the middle will no doubt be an integral part of the building, not just a piece of "annexed land" that you look at from the window. Also, I imagine maximising the external envelope was actually a design choice. It's not a warehouse, they need to fit 12000 people. A more efficient external envelope-to-foot print ratio would mean more people stuck away in internal parts of the building with no connection to the external environment. Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 LOL! I get your drift and yes thinking about it the design for circulation is plain ridiculous. I thought it was quite breathtaking that he wanted to buy the old folks out just because they were in the way of his space ship! I still think the presentation graphics look awfully crude. A bold design but maybe flawed. AJ Quote Link to comment
Cadplan Architecture Posted June 13, 2011 Share Posted June 13, 2011 I love the Apple Store glass stairs Quote Link to comment
VectorGeek Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Anybody know who are the ?great architects ? some of the best in the world? who came up with this? My guess is Norman Foster. Nope. Apple hired I.M. Pei for this one. That was a pretty unsophisticated group of councilors. Had to laugh at the woman trying to wangle free WiFi out of Steve. Are you kidding me? The renderings and presentation (for a project of that size and stature) were IMO, absolutely brutally bad. V-G Quote Link to comment
fv19 Posted June 14, 2011 Share Posted June 14, 2011 Is that a fact, Revit as a requirement for being one of the architects. Does Steve know that his building is developed under Microsoft's OS and that its even a must. But, as a fact, We as architects in Holland these days are also required to use Revit. The days we invested in Vectorworks are definatly over. We still use 2009 and sooner or later just to open old files. Francois Quote Link to comment
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