Stair tool: "riser height must be equal or less than max riser height"

[Christiaan]

When I try to click ok to accept my min and max values this message pops. What does it mean? What figures am I getting wrong? Is it a bug or am I being stupid? (Stair tool in VW v2011)

[Christiaan]

pfft, can't work the thing out

[Bryan G.]

Christiaan,

I am wondering if the module was written using the piece Escher's Relativity as a basis for calculation?

[VincentCuclair]

I think they are somehow also connected to some/all of the other values ie. Number of risers etc. Try checking the other values that may determine rise and run in general........and try locking and unlocking some of the padlocks.

Edited January 11, 2011 by Vincent C

[mike m oz]

Christiaan you seem to have hit on a combination that won't work. Even when you change the 2R + G max value to 1000 it still doesn't work.

Submit it as a bug.

[michaelk]

While you're at it, submit the missing preposition in the warning.

"The Riser Height must be equal to or less than the maximum Riser Height."

mk

[VincentCuclair]

I guess the whole tool won't work if there is an option to switch off the max/min settings completely...!?

[Christiaan]

Christiaan you seem to have hit on a combination that won't work. ... Submit it as a bug.

Heh, trust it to be the UK building regs standard for stairs in blocks of flats, our most common stair configuration.

[Christiaan]

While you're at it, submit the missing preposition in the warning.

"The Riser Height must be equal to or less than the maximum Riser Height."

Even then it isn't helpful as there is no "Riser Height" setting in the window. I assume it's meant to say "The Minimum Riser Height must be ..."

[Dieter @ DWorks]

Just set the min. values very low and the max. values very high.

The tool sometimes refuses to draw a perfectly correct stair because of these values, when hten setting them too low and too high, there is no more problem.

[Christiaan]

If we forget UK blocks of flats (a standard stair symbol is all they need

Not true by any stretch, at least not in London where our sites are nearly always as tight as a duck's chuff. Floor-to-floor heights are often different between projects and nearly always different between floors. Length and styles of flights always vary. The only constant is the building regs minimums and maximums.

[Christiaan]

I've got it. The pop up window is referring to the Riser Height under General Geometry in the main window rather than the Min./Max. Settings window.

I had to go out of Min./Max. Settings window and lower the Riser Height in the main settings. Horrible stuff. Being that the Riser Height wasn't locked my Min./Max. Settings should have overridden the Riser Height.

So, although obscure, Petri was correct. Rules first, goal posts after that.

[Christiaan]

I've got it. The pop up window is referring to the Riser Height under General Geometry in the main window rather than the Min./Max. Settings window.

I had to go out of Min./Max. Settings window and lower the Riser Height in the main settings. Horrible stuff. Being that the Riser Height wasn't locked my Min./Max. Settings should have overridden the Riser Height.

So, although obscure, Petri was correct. Rules first, goal posts after that.

Actually this is stupid. If we change the rules the goal posts should just move automatically. It's a computer!

[JuanCarlos]

Its a good practice that when drawing stairs, you should start by selecting the style for the intended use (either on Vw 2011 or newer) on v2011 you can create a style with broader boundaries and use it if your stair does not need to follow any code rules as mentioned before, otherwise select the appropriate code rule (always good to check the latest code ruling to match the intended style) on v2013 you have a checkbox to select whether you what to use min/max values or not.

[Christiaan]

Okay, so set the min./max before placing the stair on the design layer?