Snaps not Snapping Correctly

[zoomer]

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There are problems in perspective views in 2016 with selections,

so maybe snapping too (?)

And even in orthogonal views, i have problems with Meshes that they get

selected by clicking far out of their geometry borders.

[bcd]

10.11.3 should be out any day now. I'm hoping for wonderful reports.

[bcd]

10.11.3 should be out any day now. I'm hoping for wonderful reports.

[Bruce Kieffer]

I guess I don't model in perspective view. I just tried snapping in it. Yes, it is messed up.

[halfcoupler]

A BIG whish on Santa Nemetschek's wishlist concerning snapping:

An additional option "snap only by loci" on the snapping pallette. It is very often a problem that there is an unavoided snapping when symbols have detailed lines that are very close to a snappoint, but it ist very simple to set a locus as snappoint within a set of symbols. With a "snap by loci" function unintended snaps can totally be avoided.

Edited November 30, 2015 by halfcouple

[Benson Shaw]

+1

Put it in the wish list!

Right now the tilde (hold) key temporarily disables all snaps. Maybe Option Tilde could enable the Snap only to Loci option

-B

[zoomer]

"snap only by loci"

++++++++ 1

[BG]

Hi Benson

I don't find that the tilde disables all snaps. I wish it did. With the tilde held down, when you move your mouse over an object, it still highlights and can be selected, just not on a corner or edge etc.

Try this, have a large rectangle solid filled, draw a smaller object inside this rectangle. Now try dragging a marquee around the smaller object to select it. Can't be done, as it keeps selecting the larger rectangle, even with the tilde pushed.

B

[PVA - Admin]

Tilde disables snapping, not selection or preselection indication. Snapping and the ability to select or highlight are not the same function.

I don't disagree a method for this should be possible, just that the suspension of snapping isnt what you're looking for directly. Marking this thread for submission.

[Andy Broomell]

Try this, have a large rectangle solid filled, draw a smaller object inside this rectangle. Now try dragging a marquee around the smaller object to select it. Can't be done, as it keeps selecting the larger rectangle, even with the tilde pushed.

To accomplish this you want to hold down the modifier key for "X-ray Select Mode", which will temporarily hide all fills and allow you to marquee without selecting the larger rectangle. I believe the default key for this is "B", which you can confirm in your workspace on the "Keys" tab of the Workspace Editor.

This is also incredibly useful for when you're tracing large images or PDFs and want to marquee without grabbing the thing you're tracing.

[Benson Shaw]

For this interior selection, press/hold the Shift key prior to starting the selection marquee or selection click. It's like extending a selection only starting with nothing selected.

If the interior object is occluded (hidden by another object), you might find it with the Shift>marquee method, but it's easier to use the B key "x-ray" feature per AEB's post

-B

Edited November 30, 2015 by Benson Shaw

[zoomer]

There are a lot of problems for me related with Selection and Snapping.

Just a few :

Objects with Fill have selection priority in their Form.

Although that rating does not always belong to their content importance.

May just be they are Hybrid Objects.

Trying to select non filled Geometry laying over a large Filled Object by

Marquee will not work - instead you will drag the filled Object.

Meshes, although not filled, in Plan View behave similar to Filled Objects

as long as Selection Tool not being in least "Disabled Interactive Scaling Mode".

You will always select them accidentally + their Selection Filling can exceed their

geometry by far, in 3D Views at least.

You can see 3D Object's Lines in planar Views, but you can't snap to it when working

with 2D Objects.

Drag Tool is not Selection-sensitive/locked.

You always risk to pick the neighbored element when you drag or switch to

Sub Object Mode when activated for Selection Tool.

For me that means a lot of CMD+Z and high-precision-cursor-placements.

[Benson Shaw]

The shift select with marquee or click is process for selecting interior shapes and can help for some of these other snap problems. But that inadvertent move/drag instead of select is a constant fear.

Pressing "z" to zoom helps precision selection, but then next click, eg to select, also dismisses the zoom, which can cause unintended action to the selected object. The z to zoom feature could be refined with more control of the dismiss.

Anyway, sympathy for Zoomer's list of snap issues.

-B

Edited November 30, 2015 by Benson Shaw

[Limm]

I have the Snap problem, it makes me mad, i prefer working in VectorWorks 12 !!!!!