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Angled (Not Vertical) Column Object Option


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For now you will need to make your own hybrid symbol:

- Model the column in 3D.

- Switch back to Top/Plan View.

- Draw the required 2D directly on top of the 3D.

- Select both the 2D and the 3D parts and invoke the Create Symbol command.

- Nominate the insertion point and click on OK.

Be mindful that if you edit the symbol after creation you need to make sure the 2D and 3D parts remain correctly aligned on top of each other and that you modify both the 2D and 3D parts as necessary.

I agree though Diamond that Vw needs an inclined column object that does this automatically.

Edited by mike m oz
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Thanks Gents. The hybrid symbol is what I have been doing.

I prefer working with objects rather than extrudes. In this case we are jumping into the world of IFC files / BIM for our consultant documentation exchange, and an intelligent object would probably be cleaner.

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Draw 2d plan view of the base.

Draw 2d plan view of the top

Select both

Multiple Extrude - set extrude height.

Or.

Draw column vertical.

Edit>Ungroup.

Front View - Rotate.

And

As Peter recommends: then draw the 2d graphics you want to represent the column in Top-Plan view - Select all >Modify Create Symbol

Yes, it's no longer parametric, but it's fast, accurate & easily edited.

Tools>IFC Data and nominate your extrude to be an IFC Column.

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In FM:

Bevels are only present at the solid beam option...

Bevels should be in:

a.. Cool formed steel channel.

b.. Steel Section.

c.. Custom profile.

You don't get the cut height (as happens in feature in wall).

I think those are the things that should exist in the column object, too.

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Thank you Jeffery.

That works well. Although doesn't show correctly in plan, but at least better than an extrude to edit on the fly.

An interesting note. I have found by rotating the object 90 deg in front view enables me to have a fully vertical column.

Just have to make sure that the steel section object within a symbol that I used (in my case, a round hollow section) is converted to a polygon.

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An interesting note. I have found by rotating the object 90 deg in front view enables me to have a fully vertical column.

On VW2009 it doesn't. I'm getting message "This operation only works on hybrid objects in plan projection". Though, I hope we both are talking about same thing - Framing Member....

Regarding original subject - there indeed is a need for 1 object which would allow to create the whole structural construction and then to be included in schedules. Currently construction can be made combining Framing Member (for beam and rafter type objects) and Column (for vertical elements) - and the scheduling is an issue.

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