Acadia Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 I know it has been debated a lot in the past. I am at a point where I feel that the VW built in rendering options including Radiosity aren't good or quick enough for what I need to do, a lot of residential presentation work. So in the past I've exported even to Bryce 3D etc. But again, any edit is a pain. Is there something that has a plug in and can accept VW? Is Cinema 4D good enough in your opinion? Thank you Quote Link to comment
gScott Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 it depends on what you want to achieve, how much time you've got to do it, and how much you want to spend i would suggest artlantis is next best for speed, quality + integration with VW C4D + maxwell appear to be more powerful + "accurate" but i don't have working experience with them so can't comment on how well they integrate with VW + how easy they manage + apply your material library Quote Link to comment
billtheia Posted December 11, 2009 Share Posted December 11, 2009 Will Artlantis do NON-photorealistic rendering (artistic, sketch, etc?) I'm pretty sure that C4D can. Quote Link to comment
gScott Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 artlantis has some pretty well hidden hidden 'pre'-"post-rendering" options that let you fiddle general brightness-contrast-saturation options, as well as some basic sketchy-pastel-glow options. it's not piranesi, but it's better than RW Quote Link to comment
Acadia Posted December 17, 2009 Author Share Posted December 17, 2009 Thank you guys, so Artlantis will update to the changes done in VW? regards David Quote Link to comment
mark@custom Posted December 28, 2009 Share Posted December 28, 2009 Thank you guys, so Artlantis will update to the changes done in VW? Sure, whenever you re-import the VW file. That's one of the reasons I went away from Artlantis. Even though there is a plugin for Artlantis / VW, I found revising a rendered model to be a drag. Also, At the time I was using Artlantis, one had to adjust light sources one at a time. It appears that Artlantis has upgraded like everyone else so my input is a little dated [like 3 years]. At least with RW the sketchy / line art options aren't "...pretty well hidden hidden...", they're out in front. Yeah, the render engine is creaky and with HDRI scenes it can take a while, but for work flow, VW/RW still works for me. Obviously, YMMV. Good luck! Quote Link to comment
Kool Aid Posted January 3, 2010 Share Posted January 3, 2010 Thank you guys, so Artlantis will update to the changes done in VW? Sure, whenever you re-import the VW file. That's one of the reasons I went away from Artlantis. When I used Artlantis, only an export/update of the Artlantis-model was required. When did this change to a full re-import? Quote Link to comment
Jershaun Posted January 14, 2010 Share Posted January 14, 2010 http://www.refractivesoftware.com/videos.html Quote Link to comment
LUMINA Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 For me, over the past 10 years we have used 3D StudioMax. Here's some small examples. http://www.luminatechnical.com/rendering.html Also, this is mentioned in this weeks our blog, "Rinse and repeat". visit http://luminatechnical.blogspot.com/ Hope this helps Quote Link to comment
Diamond Posted March 1, 2010 Share Posted March 1, 2010 I am getting into C4D. Being owned by Nemetschek, it plays nicer with VW. (C4D has pretty much the same capabilities as 3DS Max). Check out some of the workflow features on the Maxon site. http://www.maxon.net/products/editions-bundles/editions/architecture-edition.html Quote Link to comment
Assemblage Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 If Nemetschek makes C4D, why can't RW just be improved? Architectural process is iterative - the scheme needs to be constantly worked and reworked, analysed, presented, presented again, etc in one program. Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 $$$ Renderworks works well for me. I wouldn't buy it if it added $1000 (app. cost of CD4) to the price of VW. Quote Link to comment
Diamond Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Renderworks is a simple in app rendering solution. Yes, it is getting better, and to be honest, I use it mostly for shadow diagrams (which I would not do in C4D). What is great about it, is that with some lighting knowledge (this is what I am lacking in, and what I am currently reading up on), you can do it all in VW. This is a great way to get started. Our office uses it extensively for montages. What it cannot do is full cinema quality photo realism which I am personally pursuing, but it seems to be able to get close. Have a look at the Renderworks examples on Nemetschek's website. If Nemetschek makes C4D, why can't RW just be improved? Architectural process is iterative - the scheme needs to be constantly worked and reworked, analysed, presented, presented again, etc in one program. Nemetschek has a wide base of users. To simply say that they should just roll all of their knowledge into all of their apps is short sighted. VW is already used by a massively wide spectrum already. It does certain things, other apps do others. What you have to realise is that high end photo reaslism cost time, money & skill. The Avatar movie cost $600 million for a good reason. It takes highly specialised people to do this work at a very high level. Assemblage - Have a look at the ArchiCAD workflow movie at Maxon's C4D architectural edition website. The workflow for VW is very similar. The VW file can be progressively worked and updated in C4D without losing all of your work in C4D each time you reimport the base file. Quote Link to comment
Diamond Posted March 2, 2010 Share Posted March 2, 2010 Assemblage, I would recommend you push Renderworks as far as it will go, and then and only then, would I recommend you go to C4D. As Ray mentioned, it is a costly addition to VW and you have to justify spending that money. Quote Link to comment
Diamond Posted March 3, 2010 Share Posted March 3, 2010 There is an in-depth review at Architosh for your perusal; http://architosh.com/2009/06/product-review-cinema-4d-r11-architectural-edition/ Cheers! Quote Link to comment
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