td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Hello All, Just updated to 2010! So far so good, but I am having a problem with a "flickery" mouse. When I move the mouse around the screen, say in the 2d select tool, the arrow flickers so much that it makes it difficult to determine if the move or resize arrow is active when I hover over the end of a line. I have tried to match settings but obviously I am missing something. I have unchecked the gdi in the display preferences...it seems like unchecking that always solves something! Thanks in advance for any advice cause it is giving me fits! Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 Have you updated your video drivers? Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks Ray, I went ahead and updated my drivers and the flicker is still there. FYI, according Quick time player, my version is:7.6.4 (1327.73). Also, When VW is open but without a drawing started, the mouse does NOT flicker. Only when a drawing is open. Thanks, Pat Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 What model video card is it? What version drivers? Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Version: 6.14.10.5043 Date: 3/9/2009 Just spoke with a gal in tech support and she thought it might be my wireless mouse but I am running a wired mouse now with the same effect. I am also going to try starting windows in safe mode and see if anything changes. Thanks for your time, Quote Link to comment
brudgers Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Per the intel website, your computer is using shared memory for video. http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intelgm45/ [see the FAQ] With prvious versions of Vectorworks this has not been consistent with hardware recommendations. See: http://kbase.vectorworks.net/questions/714/Video+Graphic+Card+Guidelines+for+Vectorworks+-+9%7B47%7D15%7B47%7D2009 I would be surprised if that has changed with 2010. Edited October 12, 2009 by brudgers Quote Link to comment
Ray Libby Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I would say you just don't have the video horsepower to run VW 2010. Were you able to run VW 2009? Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 I was able to run VW2009 perfectly! In fact I have them open, side by side. 2010 flicker, 2009 no flicker. Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 I am trying to figure this out here, but as you can see I am running windows XP. Correct me if I am wrong but XP will only allow so much ram to be used for memory...anything extra would just sit unused. Is it the same for video memory? Would Vista make better use of my ram? Windows 7? Not sure even if it does work better if I can load a new os as this is a work computer. Just trying to get my head around this! Thanks! Quote Link to comment
brudgers Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 If you're running a 32bit operating system, then there are 4 gigabytes of addressable memory. Doesn't matter if it's XP, Vista, Seven, or Windows 2000; 32bit OS = four gigabytes maximum address space. Given NNA's recommendations, you were lucky to be able to run 2009 without problems on an integrated graphics controler. With 2010, your luck ran out. Seven or Vista might improve things, but then again it might make the problem worse. XP drivers can do things that are not allowed in Vista and Seven. In addition, if you are running on a laptop, you may have trouble getting all the correct drivers for Vista or Seven. You'll have better odds with a workstation class laptop such as a Dell Precision and much lower odds with a consumer level laptop and/or a minor brand. On the other hand, if you're not running on a laptop, you should be able to pop in a video card with adequate resources. Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted October 12, 2009 Administrator Share Posted October 12, 2009 Patrick, did you update the video drivers from the laptop's or the video card manufacturer? Checking on Intel they have a driver dated 9/15/2009 http://alturl.com/86t4 I will try that instead. Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) Also, if you are running a logitech mouse then it may be worth updating the logitech drivers or trying standard mouse drivers. Edited October 12, 2009 by IanH Quote Link to comment
j.christ Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I updated Quicktime to 7.6.4 and I started having weird things happen to other software I use, generally just video display issues. Rolled back to the previous version of quicktime and no problems occurred. Quote Link to comment
JHEarcht Posted October 12, 2009 Share Posted October 12, 2009 I had a blinking pointer with my MS Wireless Mouse that was fixed by downloading a new mouse driver. Apparently older drivers had a problem with CAD. A quick test : look in the Task Manager (WinXP) Processes for Ipoint.exe. Turn it off and see if the flickering stops. Windows will use the default mouse driver, which will make any special functions inoperative. You can go back to the wireless Driver in Control Panel/Mouse. But you will still need to update Ipoint.exe. My current version is 6.31.230. Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 thanks JPA, but it looks like those drivers are for Vista and I have Win XP Tablet. I could try it but I am hesitant to make things more fubar! Thanks again, Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks j.christ, I rolled QT back to what came on the 2010 disc and still had the same problem. I did not though restart the computer so maybe tonight after a restart things will be ok! Thanks again for the suggestion, Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 thanks JHEarcht, I have a couple of windows wireless mice that I use (not at the same time) and I do not see lpoint.exe in the TM. I did though update the mouse drivers...still flickering! Thanks, Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 12, 2009 Author Share Posted October 12, 2009 I would say you just don't have the video horsepower to run VW 2010. Were you able to run VW 2009? I just installed a 30 day trial of 2010 on one of my students laptops (all students get laptops here!) and although the install was a bit funky, 2010 is running well. No flickers. The machines are: AMD Turion 64x2 Mobile 2.00Ghz and 1.87 GB Ram with an ATI Radeo X1250 card. Looks like it is running with 256 mb of video ram. My laptop only looked like it was running 128 mb of shared video ram. That's a kicker, the students laptop is better than mine!? oh well, thanks anyways! Quote Link to comment
Administrator JuanP Posted October 13, 2009 Administrator Share Posted October 13, 2009 Patrick, the exact location for the driver is: http://alturl.com/j9ph i hope this helps. Juan P. Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Patrick, the exact location for the driver is: http://alturl.com/j9ph i hope this helps. Juan P. Thanks Juan...will give it a go! Quote Link to comment
td4stage Posted October 13, 2009 Author Share Posted October 13, 2009 Juan, When I tried to install the driver I got, "The driver being installed is not validated for this computer. Please obtain the appropriate driver from the computer's manufacturer. Setup will exit." Oh well it was worth a try! Quote Link to comment
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