JSiegel Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 As a new user to VW2009 & 3D drawing in general, can anyone give me some ideas on the best way to provide structural information for the Construction Documents. For example, in 2D, I would create a class called structure & simply draw a heavy centerline above a window/door and call out a header size. Is this still the most efficient way to provide structural information on the drawings? Quote Link to comment
islandmon Posted September 29, 2009 Share Posted September 29, 2009 Sheet > Viewport > Annotations Assign Classes to the variation annotations for ease & consistency. Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted September 29, 2009 Author Share Posted September 29, 2009 Islandmon, So you recommend that the structural information is added in a sheet layer viewport rather than directly on the model itself. Would you do this for all annotations, dimensions, etc. & separate them through classing? Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
islandmon Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 If the requirement is to attach info, then use Hybrid Symbols and attach Records and/or text with the 2D: 2D Planview of structural steel: http://www.fractalnet.org/gallery2/v/CAD/StructSteel/CAD_HybridStl-2d.jpg.html 3D isoview of same plan: http://www.fractalnet.org/gallery2/v/CAD/StructSteel/CAD_HybridStl-3d.jpg.html Quote Link to comment
Guest Wes Gardner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Here's a idea on how to add annotations and where... If the info is unique to the detail - add it to that particular drawing in the viewport If it's going to be shown on more that one sheet, add it in the design layer in an appropriate Class so it can be toggled on or off. Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted September 30, 2009 Author Share Posted September 30, 2009 Islandmon & Wes, Thanks for your input. Islandmon, I can't comment on the links you forwarded as they could not be found/opened. But you have likely hit upon the issue I am looking to address. I am drawing a simple shed roof for a porch on a single family home with a dropped girder. Likely a triple 2x8 packed & trimmed out. So I would like to attach data/record to this object. Additionally, what is the best practice layer wise for locating this object. Do I draw it in a class on my first floor layer and raise it into place or create it as part of my second floor deck? I haven't checked the forum list yet as this has likely been addressed, but will do next. Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest Wes Gardner Posted September 30, 2009 Share Posted September 30, 2009 Hi Jeremy, Following your lead as you've suggested - I still go with the "old Skool" approach of whatever is clearest to portray the information to the contractor. See example where I've indicated structural stuff in both the floor below and ceiling above. This sketch is the second floor of the building - the first floor carries the same information in its ceiling regarding the LVL's. The purpose - so the contractor can't possible miss the fact that beam needs to be there. This is just 2D info... Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Wes, I have always annotated the 2D drawings as per your image and you are correct in that it provides a high degree of clarity for the contractor. As I am switching over from Autocad R-14, I am trying to build the 3D model accurately for presentation & CD's. That is why I am trying to get a handle on some best practices for building the model. I can always resort to 2D line work "old skool. Do you have any thoughts on where dropped girders/soffits should be draw in the 3D model? Its own design layer where I set the delta Z? Or as I mentioned in the prior post, should it be part of the floor above and then dropped down? Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest Wes Gardner Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi Jeremy, If it's just a matter of setting a beam in the model and have it appear as a dashed line above, look at the attached file using a Framing Member out of the Detailing Tool Set Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Hi Wes, I am getting an unrecognized file error message when I try to open the file. I see you are running VW 2010. Can you "save down" to VW 2009 & resend? Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Guest Wes Gardner Posted October 1, 2009 Share Posted October 1, 2009 Oops, sorry, here's the file in '09 Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted October 1, 2009 Author Share Posted October 1, 2009 Wes, Greatly appreciated! I've got it now. Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
Tom G. Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 Jeremy: I'd follow Wes' suggestion and use the 2D sheets to convey specific beam info to your contractor. I suggest creating a layer to which you send misc. 3D elements. A beam such as you've described would fit the bill. That way it will show up in the model--assuming its visibility is set to on--and it won't tend to clutter your Top/Plan view where you could use a simplified line to indicate the beam or header or other structural member. The beam(s) would not need to be classed unless you wanted to show a variation/alternative or hide it for some reason. Quote Link to comment
michael john williams Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 How do you add attachments to messages / replies? Quote Link to comment
JSiegel Posted October 9, 2009 Author Share Posted October 9, 2009 tguy, I had reached a similar conclusion only I had just been separating the misc. 3D elements out in classes, turning on/off as needed in my sheet layer viewports. Thanks, Jeremy Quote Link to comment
brudgers Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 How do you add attachments to messages / replies? Use the "Switch to Full Reply Screen" button below the quick response box. Click "file manager" in the "post options" section below the input box. Quote Link to comment
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