colly Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) getting so frustrated, i've been adding doors to a wall which are viewable in wireframe but disappear in open GL. if i copy the door from another wall which is viewable it disappears in the new wall. copied wall into new file and the doors appear again... aarrrgghhhh!!!!! Edited June 10, 2009 by colly Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) this is the problem file Edited June 10, 2009 by colly Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Is the door definitely correctly located as "door in wall" rather than "door" hidden in the wall. You have not loaded your test file correctly. Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Now you have the test file, the doors are there but they are the same colours as the walls so made them hard to spot. Change fill colour of '*-Framing glazing' class and they will appear. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 You're doing it right. Right now the doors are just the same color as the walls. A couple things might help: 1. Select a door. In the Object Info Palette click on the box for "Show 3D Open" You can even set an open angle for that door in 3D. 2. Select a door. In the OIP click on Settings. In the next box click the View tab. On the bottom right you can assign each part of the door to a class. The classes MUST be named Style-1, Style-2, or Style Glazing-1, etc. Then you can set a default color or texture for each class. cheers michaelk Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) sorry mate, thats not working for me. even if they are the same colour i should still be able to see them in open GL. they don't seem to be punching a hole in the wall. Edited June 10, 2009 by colly Quote Link to comment
Vectorworks, Inc Employee Judah Warshaw Posted June 10, 2009 Vectorworks, Inc Employee Share Posted June 10, 2009 (edited) Perhaps try the following: Edit the *-WALLS MAIN class to show a texture for the Left, Center and Right for Walls. Select Tools | Organization to bring up the dialog. Choose the Classes tab if not selected and click Edit. Choose the Walls tab and turn on textures for all 3. OK your way out of the dialogs. (If all this is obvious, then I apologize in advance). By having a texture your doors should now be clear. Since there was no texture for either the doors or the wall, they seems to blend together depending on the flip state of the door. Let me know if this this helps out. Edited June 10, 2009 by Judah Warshaw Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 hope you guys are seeing in the test file what i'm seeing, some of the doors are visible in open GL and some are not Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Zoom in a bit further and put an angle on the door to ensure that the plane of the wall and the door are significantly different that you will see the edges. They are definitely there in my system but hard to spot. Otherwise its the OpenGL on your graphics card causing the issue. Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Fine here... but do try zooming in further. Looks like its probably your graphics card. Try updating the drivers. Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 this image shows where the door is punched out of one wall and not the other.... this is driving me loco!!! Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 its definetely a modelling issue, because i've taken it in to c4d and its the same story, punched through on some wall but not others Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Obviously the model fixed itself on my system. My attachment is of very similar view and it differs from your view, yet all I did was open the file, rotate the view and turn on OpenGL. I can make doors appear and disappear at will simply by adjusting the angle of the view to accentuate the doors in the walls. I can zoom right into an 'invisible' door and with careful inspection, make out the frame and the step shape even though the door is 'invisible'. Everything that I see is fully explained by the inaccuracies of rendering items of same colour on a similar plane. I can render in OpenGL, fast renderworks and final quality renderworks and with some views, final quality renderworks will show the doors but not the exact same view in OpenGL or fast renderworks simply because of the extra accuracy of final quality renderworks can pick out the edges of the change in plane. Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Also renders fine on my machine. I edited the *-WALLS MAIN class to have a fill color. The walls turned green and the doors stayed grey. they don't seem to be punching a hole in the wall. Have you tried opening the doors in 3D? good luck michaelk Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 these images show how it comes in to cinema4d. the geometry is there but when rendered, the walss geomerty is unaltered bt the door. Its stays Dorr in wall" but its not "in" the wall... for some reason, but it is in your which is confusing??!! do you think its my libraries? thankyou for replying by the way Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 yeah, the door leaf opens but still no hole in the wall Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Was part of this file created in an earlier version of VW or in Architect? michaelk Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Try zooming in quite close in on one of the invisible doors and re-rendering. Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 door closup in c4d Quote Link to comment
michaelk Posted June 10, 2009 Share Posted June 10, 2009 Hmmmmmm It renders fine until I try to change things. There seems to be a problem in some of the walls. Sometimes they disappear in Open GL. Changing the class of a wall part makes the drawing unstable. Also, some of the walls are joined in strange ways... That's why I asked if this drawing began life in VW 12, or VW 2008, and as an Architect version rather than Fundamentals. And the class structure makes me think an imported dwg may have been involved. michaelk Quote Link to comment
colly Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 thank you jeebus!!! at least i'm not the only crazy man! No its been created in fundamentals 2009 i'm resorting to subtracting holes out of a solid to show the the door... i just don't like things beating me! maybe its the wall directions. Quote Link to comment
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