Stretching

[Assemblage]

In Microstation/AutoCAD et al, you draw a fence around nodes, and stretch them. Using '2D Reshape' in VW in the same way, it doesn't move anything Grouped, in a Symbol, etc. Are we missing something?

[bonus]

A symbol is holy ground - no reshape or stretch tool will have any effect on it unless you do it from inside the symbol, i.e you edit the smbol itself.

You can convert it to a group, then ungroup it and it will be stretchable, but that's no way to go.

It's basicly the idea of symbols. They're protected from accidental editing. Groups are similar, but stretchable. Not with the 2Dreshape tool though.

The 2D reshape tool is a tool used to move what you mark inside the fence as if it were a temporary group. All nodes move together relative what's outside the fence (only selected nodes will move though) and maintaines all connections to outside nodes.

If a group is not completely within the fence it will not be selected automatically and you must select it manually.

The real strech tool is the basic cursor set to stretch mode in the upper left corner of the window (arrow lines for single or multiple objects)

This will stretch groups too.

[Ray Libby]

Having the 2D reshape tool not work on groups is very valuable in my opinion, enter the group if you need to stretch it. I agree with bonus, not working on symbols is the way symbols work.

Edited November 1, 2008 by Ray Libby

[Assemblage]

Yes, but what I meant was when stretching an area which includes groups in their entirety, the groups don't move. That is, we're not trying to stretch the group, just have it move along with the rest of the stretched objects.

[Ray Libby]

That's not happening here, groups move with the stretch. Check to see if the bounding box isn't larger than the group itself.

[willofmaine]

And groups may be larger than they appear, especially if they have callouts and/or callouts with leaders on an angle...

[Gytis]

...or loci...

[bonus]

The group should move along if it's really selected, unless it's in another layer and layer views is not set to "modify others" or the group is locked.

[Assemblage]

Just tried some experiments in new empty files - you're right, it does move as it should...thanks everyone. There must be a problem with the layer/class designations. I'll sort through and report back briefly to cap the query off.

Many thanks,