Wall Join Big Problem Please Help

[CS1]

I have attached a file showing the problem.

It happens whenever I join to walls in the same directions.

The walls basically shoot off the screen an infinite amount.

[Chad McNeely]

Longstanding problem. Bug listed forever, I'm sure. You can try using the 2d reshape tool and marguee'ing the wall end and dragging it into alignment. This sometimes fakes the walls into thinking they're not walls, join-wise.

[mike m oz]

You can't join walls which are collinear because there is no way the program can determine where the join should occur. ie should it be at one end, in the middle, at the end etc. When there is a need to butt join the ends of two collinear walls use stretch to get the ends of the walls to where you require.

[CS1]

Sorry I don't mean "join" as in the tool "join", I have been stetching one wall into another or using the slit tool to cut one wall in to three and changing the class of the middle wall to say "removed" and then dashing.

The walls seem to appear fine for a short time then all of a sudden all the walls that are joined like this shoot off the page.

How are people doing plans for renovations with this problem?

I start off with all my existing walls in a a class "existing remaining", then I go round the plan and trim section of these walls and change there class to "removed" so on my existing floor plan VP I can do a class override and show them as dashed and on my proposed floor plan VP I can hide them.

[CS1]

What about where you have a wall with two different claddings (textures)?

[Chad McNeely]

...walls that are joined like this shoot off the page.

How are people doing plans for renovations with this problem?

I start off with all my existing walls in a a class "existing remaining",

Try duplicating all the existing walls at this point, group them, re-class to your demo/remove class, then lock them. You will still get some unwanted interaction between the grouped and locked walls (VW needs a stronger lock, apparently!) as you draw and move new walls around, but things are a little more manageable.

then I go round the plan and trim section of these walls and change there class to "removed" so on my existing floor plan VP I can do a class override and show them as dashed and on my proposed floor plan VP I can hide them.

Should be fine, except now no need to re-class the removed bits- they're already there under the existing.

Edited August 13, 2008 by Chad McNeely

[CS1]

Thanks for that Chad, the only problem with locking is the plans are not final at the moment, im still going round and moving walls then undoing and trying other directions.

[Chad McNeely]

Is a designer moving existing walls similar to creative math from an accountant?

[CS1]

Haha, I mean the sections of existing walls that are to remain and which locations are to be removed, and also new wall locations.

[mike m oz]

Turn off the VectorWorks Auto join walls preference.

[CS1]

Great thanks for that Mike, didn't know there was a option for that, I shall try it.