Heppy Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Obviously VW is the first choice modelling program due to its ease of use and capabilities, but what program do you suggest to use to create phorealistic renderings? I have tried C4D but I find it far too complicated to use, especially for interior visuals and renderings. I am looking to test several programs to see what is : a) interface/user friendly b) Gives the best results. Hard 3DS Max was good but is there a plugin for it? Thanks :] Quote Link to comment
M.CH Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 Artlantis Studio 2, with a VW 2008 plug in. Simple interface and also you can update your VW file, without having to redo, as in SMax. Allows you to do renders, animations, QuickTime VR animations, Parallel views (Elevations & Plans) and sections Works on a Mac or Pc, better on a Mac!! Quote Link to comment
RubenH Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 (edited) C4d is logical and easy to use, once you get in. 3dmax looks more complicated to me. Maxwell and Vray functions with Cinema; if you want more quality over cinema. I use cinema with maxwell. I'm happy with the workflow. VW--->C4d--->Maxwell. I think you should take another look to C4D. Edited July 28, 2008 by Mr. Gog Quote Link to comment
Heppy Posted July 28, 2008 Author Share Posted July 28, 2008 Thanks for the responses. I have been messing about with C4D for a few weeks, but I find it impossible to 'walkthrough' my design. It is incredibly easy to create a perspective of a design within VW... I am still trying to work out how to move around my design in C4D, so much so that it became too frustrating and I gave up! Cant seem to find much advice on the subject on the internet so I am beginning to look for an alternative that is more user friendly. That said, V-ray/Maxwell and C4D results are sublime! I read some reviews on Artlantis, but I am not too convinced about the final result compared to C4D. Quote Link to comment
RubenH Posted July 29, 2008 Share Posted July 29, 2008 How do you setup you units and model in C4d? You know, when you select one object in C4d you move your view around it, it facilitates a lot of movements. Remenber you can export VW cameras to C4d via the plug in. Quote Link to comment
Heppy Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 Mr Gog, To be honest, I didnt think that the model had to be set up in C4D as well as VW! This is probably where my problem lies! Have you got any suggestions for how I should set it up? I realised that you can change your view around one object, but you cant change how you view a whole model (like you can in VW). This is what frustrates me when using C4D. Didnt know about cameras either, but I never use them in VW... not until now anyway. Surely there must be a book/tutorial website that covers the basics of modelling for architects and designers with C4D? Thanks Quote Link to comment
Jershaun Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi Heppy There are options for viewing in preferences/documents/camera rotation. You should find one that suits your preference. You could use center (for example) and if you want to rotate around an object then select an object, then press the "o" key and then rotate. Also, I find it wierd you feel 3dstudio is easier than C4D. I don't particularly like all autodesk products because I feel the products are usually un-user-friendly. Your best bet is VW---C4D which frees/opens up your options with Maxwell, Vray or something else. And contrary to what others may say, this work flow doesn't cost you anytime extra compared to RenderWorks, in fact it might save you some time. However, RenderWorks still has it's place, like elevations for example. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Artlantis is your best bet in my opinion. Lowest learning curve to image quality ratio there is. RenderWorks and C4D don't even come close in this regard. Quote Link to comment
99macs Posted July 30, 2008 Share Posted July 30, 2008 Hi, C4D works great with VectorWorks, add the VRAYforC4D plugin & you have yourself a fast, cheap & high end render solution. Cheers Andreas Quote Link to comment
RubenH Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) I think this could help: http://www.maxon.net/pages/dyn_files/dyn_htx/htx/2395/02395_02396.html http://www.cineversity.com/ On the Vw units there's nothing to do, but in the C4d side you have to be sure of your units settings. The relation form C4d to Vw it's 100 times to 1. 1 meter in VW has to be set to cm(1m=100cm) in C4d. How you are exporting: dxf or plug in? You have to set the scale preferences of import to 100. (Edit-->Preferences-->Import-->DXF or VW import) Then you configure your units to cm (on C4D). View Panel --> Frame Scene it;s like --> Fit to page Hope this helps. Sorry for my english. Edited July 31, 2008 by Mr. Gog Quote Link to comment
Heppy Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Thanks for the input, hopefully it will inspire me on. Everyone seems to be in support of C4D... but on various polls I have seen scattered around the internet it is 3DS Max that seems to be the more popular choice. Interesting! Quote Link to comment
Jershaun Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Hi Heppy, What's used the most, doesn't necessarily mean it's the best. AutoCAD case in point. Also, it depends in which circles you are mixing in. If you go to the Maxwell and Fryrender sites, you'll find in the "plug-in" sections, C4D and 3DStudio are even-stevens in terms of "posts" and "replies". Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 Everyone seems to be in support of C4D... That's not my reading... of this thread at least. I see 3 for C4D and 2 for Artlantis with 2 C4D advocates alluding to the fact that it doesn't stand up to item A of your requirements, where Artlantis has a definite advantage. As to quality, you can view images here. Quote Link to comment
RubenH Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) I give C4d: A+. It's a fantanstic tool. It's capabilities are powerfull. The user interface is different because it doesn't rely on the os, it's independent. Once you get in you discover a fascinating piece of software, easy and logical. Edited July 31, 2008 by Mr. Gog Quote Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.