MikeC Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I have a big problem with symbols in viewports (either sheet or design layer) The symbols cannot be seen in the sheet layer viewport. This is not a class issue, it applies to most symbols no matter what the class (but some are visible !). Most are in design layer viewports visible in the design layer but not in the sheet layer, some in layer links, and some directly in the design layer. I have tried to remake the SLVP and also as a DLVP, same result both times. If I convert the symbols to a group the problem goes away but there are a lot of symbols ! If I zoom in while in the sheet layer I can see some symbols, zoom out they vanish again. Either way they will not print. At this time all I can think of is start a new file, import the design layers, and recreate the sheets. Any other ideas out there? Quote Link to comment
gmm18 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 I know you said it is not a class issue, but... I think you might want to check again. If you make all classes visible, does this problem go away? If so you might want to go into the Edit Symbol (both 2D & 3D) mode and make all of the objects either in the same class as you would always put that symbol in, or just to be safe you can also just set all of the objects to the "none" class. Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 26, 2008 Author Share Posted July 26, 2008 Thanks gmm18, I have already. All classes on in the viewport and I have made sure the objects within the symbol are on none. As you suggest I have just moved some symbols to none but they are still invisible ! Quote Link to comment
gmm18 Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Okay, just checking, good luck. Quote Link to comment
islandmon Posted July 26, 2008 Share Posted July 26, 2008 Looks like a scale issue ... Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 I have done some more investigation. It seems to have something to do with the sheet layer viewport looking at a designlayer viewport (or a layer link) within a larger design layer. I recreated the file with a number of layers, all the same scale. I located the first design layer viewport in place, this showed correctly (ie with symbols) in both design layer and in the sheet layer viewport. I then located the second DLVP, symbols would appear in the design layer but not in the sheet layer. I then made a layer link to the same layer, again no symbols. The original file is a little large to post, about 13MB Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 After some more work I can now reproduce the problem in a new file. It works like this: Create a new file with three design layers Place some objects in two of them, include 2d and hybrid symbols as well as others. Create 2 design layer viewports, one for each, and place in the third design layer. Set both to top plan view. Place a symbol directly in this combined layer Create a sheet layer viewport of the combined layer At this point I can see only the symbols that are present in the fist DLVP that was created, none of the others are visible including the direct symbol. In the SLVP uncheck 'project 2d objects'. Now all symbols with a 3d content become visible. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted July 27, 2008 Share Posted July 27, 2008 I just tried to duplicate your problem and I can't. I think I followed your directions. Two DLs each referenced to a third DL through individual DLVPs. 2D Symbol on the same layer as the DLVPs. SLVP of the Layer with the DLVPs. I see exactly the same thing on the SLVP as on the DLVP layer. Can you post your test file for me try? Pat Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 27, 2008 Author Share Posted July 27, 2008 One thing I did not mention. When I zoom in in the sheet layer I can see the symbols but when I zoom out they vanish. They do not print eithr way. The attached file is set on the sheet layer. I can see 3 symbols in the smaller square on the left, one in the cente but no others. Quote Link to comment
mark@custom Posted July 28, 2008 Share Posted July 28, 2008 I feel your pain! I submitted a file with the same issues on July 1 to a tech in the tech support department. He wasn't able to replicate it on a mac, but was able to on a pc. If's very frustrating having 3D symbols in a design layer viewport not render in a sheet layer viewport. They show up in wireframe and in hidden line views, but not in any of the renderworks render methods [fast renderworks, fast renderworks with shadows, and custom renderworks]. I think a tempory work around would be to go "old school" and use a layer link instead of a DLVP. Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 29, 2008 Author Share Posted July 29, 2008 It has been suggested it might be a gaphic card issue, I have tried updating drivers. This did solve another unrelated problem but failed to resolve this one. Perhaps at he age of 3 my card is just over the hill ! Quote Link to comment
bfeaginjr Posted July 31, 2008 Share Posted July 31, 2008 (edited) I talked with VW support and this is how we solved the problem: Remove any classes in your viewport on the sheet layer that contain viewports. This embedded reference really messes with the PC version of VW. Next, duplicate the Viewport. Now, turn everything else off except for the content of your referenced viewport. Turn on any viewport class(es) on this new viewport which you turned off on the original. This way you may have, for example, one viewport with the architectural drawings, and one with your lighting instruments. This layered approach to viewports on sheet layers seems to be a temporary fix until a patch is released. The support team is aware of the problem and working on it, from what they told me. Edited July 31, 2008 by bfeaginjr Quote Link to comment
MikeC Posted July 31, 2008 Author Share Posted July 31, 2008 Another work around might be to avoid using sheet layers and print from the design layer. Lets hope they release that patch soon. Quote Link to comment
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