Greg_at_ils Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Is it possible to set up multiple views for editing (not viewports) within the same VW window or to open more than one window for a file? Such as having top, front and side views visible at the same time and being able to move between them as you work. Quote Link to comment
maarten. Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 Do you mean like 3d Studio Max and other 3D programs? I'm pretty sure it's not possible in VW. Quote Link to comment
Christiaan Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 It's on the wishlist Quote Link to comment
billtheia Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 MAN would that be nice... Quote Link to comment
Dieter @ DWorks Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 There is a workaround. You can put DLVP on other layers, set them to the wanted view and set layers to: show others. This way you will see all the views you want and can work on the project. Quote Link to comment
Greg_at_ils Posted April 23, 2008 Author Share Posted April 23, 2008 I find it's a great help for both 2D and 3D work especially when you have a nice large monitor or dual monitors. DLVP don't cut it because you can't edit your drawing through them, they are not dynamic so you don't see changes without updating them and you can't just click in them and move around changing the view. It ends up being more work than just changing views or using saved views. I'm taking about having multiple dynamic windows or views that can each be clicked into and used to edit your drawing as well as having the ability to show a different view, zoom level, etc. etc. Now it would be extra cool if each window or view could also have it's own class/layer visibility settings and render mode! One can dream! Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 It's on the wishlist And it's been there for a number of years with no sign of ever being added to VW! Quote Link to comment
gmm18 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 That is how (ahem...choke...) Revit is, and I admit I was really impressed by being able to tile multiple windows with different views that are all active, live, continually updated automatically, and editable. Of course VWks is superior in many other aspects, but this is a major issue. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Whilst it would be nice it would require more computer power. I suspect that many user's computers would not have the grunt to handle all the extra calculations required, nor the graphics card capability required to display them properly. The size of users' monitors and whether they have one or two monitors would also be an issue. Quote Link to comment
gmm18 Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 But Revit works fine on a "regular" computer. Quote Link to comment
mike m oz Posted April 23, 2008 Share Posted April 23, 2008 Does it really? Where you shown it being used on an almost completed medium sized project with all of the elements modeled and all of the project drawings being generated from that model? I suspect not. Quote Link to comment
G_Hannigan Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 (edited) In most programs that have this feature, the user can decide how many "viewports" are displayed. I have never noticed a performance drop with Acad, C4D or others that I have used. Rarely is the entire project displayed in all views. I haven't tried this on my new Mac yet, but my less than "state of the art" PC works just fine. gh Edited April 24, 2008 by G_Hannigan Quote Link to comment
Greg_at_ils Posted April 24, 2008 Author Share Posted April 24, 2008 In most programs that have this feature, the user can decide how many "viewports" are displayed. I have never noticed a performance drop with Acad, C4D or others that I have used. Rarely is the entire project displayed in all views. I haven't tried this on my new Mac yet, but my less than "state of the art" PC works just fine. gh Agreed, I've never had a performance issue either (ACAD or 3D Studio) as the idea is that it is user scalable so the user can decide how far to take it. Whilst it would be nice it would require more computer power. I suspect that many user's computers would not have the grunt to handle all the extra calculations required, nor the graphics card capability required to display them properly. The size of users' monitors and whether they have one or two monitors would also be an issue. Just like many other features such as rendering, just because there are some users who may not have the computer power to do fast high quality renders with all the bells and whistles turned on doesn't mean we should not include the option to do renderings at all. We wouldn't have many advanced features by that argument. Quote Link to comment
IanH Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I use to run 3D Studio Max on my old 550Mhz Xeon box circa 1999. There were never any performance issues due to multiple concurrent views. I think any box could do it now with ease. It was very useful for 3D stuff and I do miss it. Quote Link to comment
Eoin R Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 I used Microstation over 15 years ago on computers with the fraction of the power of current machines and it had no problem opening several windows showing multiple and different views. We have started in the past a year of so doing more and more of our design work in Vectorworks 3D but the further we go with this the more apparent the limitations of the software become. Without the ability to have multiple live windows we are wasting huge amounts of time flipping between different views checking the impact of a change in plan with the elevation. This feature has been requested many times but would be at the top of our wishlist . Eoin R Architect Dublin VW 2008 Mac OSX 10.4.11 Quote Link to comment
Ariel Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 Actually, I hate how Revit handles multiple windows. Switching to a view opens a new window. While working on a project, you'd end up opening a bunch of views. Even more frustrating, Revit would tile windows of all other project files running in the background. Doesn't really make any sense tiling a dozen windows when you really only need two or three views visible at a time. Ariel Quote Link to comment
gmm18 Posted April 24, 2008 Share Posted April 24, 2008 So Vectorworks should do it better than Revit. Quote Link to comment
Charlie_P Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 It could be handled the way Cheetah 3d works. Very easy to flick between single window and four windows - side front top iso - (or as many as you like). Bit odd at first but much quicker and easier than constantly shifting the one view around as you draw. Cheetah (as the name suggests) is also a seriously quick renderer and animator and fully uses all the processors all of the time... Quote Link to comment
Charlie_P Posted April 25, 2008 Share Posted April 25, 2008 It could be handled the way Cheetah 3d works. Very easy to flick between single window and four windows - side front top iso - (or as many as you like). Bit odd at first but much quicker and easier than constantly shifting the one view around as you draw. Cheetah (as the name suggests) is also a seriously quick renderer and animator and fully uses all the processors all of the time... Quote Link to comment
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