wvancampen Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 When I duplicate a stair made with the Stair tool (either by option-dragging, cutting/pasting, mirroring, etc)--when I subsequently select one of them and try to delete it--both stairs are deleted. When I undo the delete, both stairs are shown to be selected (even though I originally selected only one). Quote Link to comment
gScott Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 is this in 12.5.x? if so, i'm afraid you're stuck with it, the stair tool is pretty dodgy especially when copying or using on multi storey buildings... Quote Link to comment
CRSA_890 Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 We had this problem and boy was it irritating. I think that 12.5.3 fixed it? Spinner Quote Link to comment
wvancampen Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 Don't know about v12. I'm using VW2008. It is very annoying. Unless I'm doing something wrong. In which case.....never mind! --------------------- VectorWorks Architect 2008/RW SP2 Mac OS 10.5.2 iMac 2.4GHz Intel Core 2 Duo/2 GB RAM MacBookPro 2.33GHz/2GB RAM Quote Link to comment
Gerrit Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Try this : select the duplicate stair, and go to the Data pane of the OIP. Delete the content of the object name box (the top one), and eventually click the stair settings button from the OIP to have a new name generated. From then on there'll be two separate stair objects. This great tip was once given to me by Robert Anderson (thanks again, Robert). Hope it will help you as well. Quote Link to comment
Jeffrey W Ouellette Posted April 21, 2008 Share Posted April 21, 2008 Please file a bug and include the problematic file with it. I thought this was fixed already.... Quote Link to comment
wvancampen Posted April 21, 2008 Author Share Posted April 21, 2008 Gerrit, I seem to recall using that solution (with success) with a similar problem involving Space objects. But it doesn't seem to be working with Stairs. Will file bug report. Quote Link to comment
Don@Black Dog Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I have been in touch with Tech support about this (it's been an issue for a long time) and it is a know problem and apparently still being worked. Wish they would hurry, along with an option to stop the handrails at a landing. In the meantime, just make them individually. Quote Link to comment
billtheia Posted April 22, 2008 Share Posted April 22, 2008 I've suffered with this problem too. In VW2008. I typically duplicate design layers and modify for multiple schematic design options. If I try to change the stairs in one option, everything seems to go haywire. See earlier post: http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=21049&Number=98273#Post98273 Dear NNA, please fix this. Quote Link to comment
visard Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'd like to pile on here, but first...to quote Gerrit - "Delete the content of the object name box (the top one), and eventually click the stair settings button from the OIP to have a new name generated." I'm puzzled by the "object name box" - the first box in the OIP is the ground plane - anybody care to comment? Secondly, the issue of the stair occurring on the upper and lower floor is problematic. Do you then place the stair of the next level on top of the stair from below which shows on the plan? And how do we deal with stairs on the next level which are different sizes? Is it possible to disable the 3D? Quote Link to comment
Charles Chandler Posted April 29, 2008 Share Posted April 29, 2008 I'm surprised to hear that this is still a problem. I tried to create the problematic condition in 2008 SP2 (83388), on both Windows and Macintosh, and didn't see any issue. I tried option-dragging a copy, copy-n-pasting a copy, duplicating a layer, etc. Regardless, at the very least as a service to those who are not running the latest version of VectorWorks (and perhaps for some who are), I created a Tips-n-Tricks page at VectorWiki.org on fixing a drawing once this problem has occurred. There is a document script that you can run that will automatically straighten everything out. Here is the link: Fix Stair Associations To answer visard's immediate questions: The "object name box" is the top box in the Data pane of the Object Info palette. And to the second question, in building with 3 or more floors, the intermediate floors will have stairs going up and stairs going down. To display this properly, you can set the stair "break" so that you only see a few treads of each staircase. Quote Link to comment
wvancampen Posted May 3, 2008 Author Share Posted May 3, 2008 He means the top box under the Data--not the Shape--tab of the OIP. As I mentioned, deleting that info/name and regenerating it worked with a similar Space object problem, but I can't get it to work with Stairs. Individually creating stairs (as opposed to duplicating them) is obviously a pain with larger multi-story projects. Yes, you place stairs on different flights on top of each other. Selecting the right one to edit is hit-or-miss, which is also annoying. Superimposing stairs of different widths is actually helpful in this regard, because it's clear which one you're trying to select. Quote Link to comment
Skia_D Posted June 20, 2008 Share Posted June 20, 2008 I just posted a request for help in the dwg import/export forum regarding some window and door parts going missing upon export to dwg. Then I remembered this post and wondered whether there was a similar issue at work. I had a data record listed under that Data Tab that said 1OF2-1OF1OR2OF2. I deleted it and Voila! the problem went away. So do I understand correctly from a previous thread that this is an ongoing known problem which Nemetschek hasn't fixed? Quote Link to comment
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