Brooke Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 I find no class settings possible for title blocks in borders but they do not track the visibility of the border class. Must they not be grouped with the border for this control (sounds like a workaround, but not correct)? If one has but one border in a drawing set, as would seem ideal, and one title block linked to that border, how do are the sheet numbers and thus drawing numbers linked to the page numbers on the title block/border? (I know I've got to get with the 'sheet layer' program, but it's just a bit of a mess of unexpected behavior that needs sorting in my little head.) Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted February 13, 2008 Share Posted February 13, 2008 The VW Border and Title Block objects are intended to be placed on each sheet that you want a title block/border on. Yes, it makes sense to do only one per file, but that is not the way it works. In order to keep the information up to date, if the title block is set up correctly, you can edit the title block data and all of the project information will be updated on every title block instance. The sheet information will only be updated on the currently selected instance. Pat Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 Where does the border/sheet get the correct sheet info? Since I don't have sheet layers properly set up I'm hoping it can be from somewhere other than there. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted February 14, 2008 Share Posted February 14, 2008 Select the Title Block in the drawing and click the button labeled Edit Title Block... in the Object Info Palette. Note that not all of the provided title blocks are set up to use the automatic Project and Sheet settings. Pat Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 14, 2008 Author Share Posted February 14, 2008 I understand editing of the title block and that tracking sheet settings may be set, but since tracking was not working for me I was wondering where that info comes from. In other words, I had my drawing titles set to track the drawings sheets but the drawing labels said "Drawing No." instead of the actual sheet no. (as it really should say, since the upper no. is the drawing no. and the lower is the sheet no.). The sheet no. was properly shown in the lower right hand drawing no. location (which again I think should be 'sheet no.' since there may be many drawings on the page). Pls. see image for example. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted February 16, 2008 Share Posted February 16, 2008 Look under the Project pane of the Edit Title Block dialog box. There is a field called Total Sheets. You have to enter the number of sheets manually. Pat Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 Thanks, Pat, but my problem is not with the total number of sheets but rather that the individual drawings on each sheet labeled with the drawing label function do not track the sheets on which they reside. Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted February 17, 2008 Share Posted February 17, 2008 It looks like the drawing label object is supposed to pick up the information from the Drawing Label field of the border/title block on the same layer. Are you trying to put the labels on a different layer than the title block? What title block are you using? Pat Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) Good guess on the possibility of different layers, but they are on the same layer: border-18x24. Different classes: border/title block: notes-common and drawing label: notes-new floor plan. Title block is "my custom title block-4." Edited February 17, 2008 by Brooke Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 17, 2008 Author Share Posted February 17, 2008 (edited) I changed the border class to 'border 18x24' and the design layer to a layer also named 'border 18x24'. When I set both class and design layer visibilities to active only, the border itself is visible, but the title block on the border is not (some ungrouped text groups are, though, as expected). When I change layer visibility to gray others, both the border and title block remain black but when I change the class visibility to gray others the title block goes to gray while the border remains black... So the title block has a different class than the containning border?? And how to give it the same border 18x24 class? Edited February 17, 2008 by Brooke Quote Link to comment
Pat Stanford Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Since you have My Custom Title Block-4, I assume that you have already edited it at least 4 times. To change the class edit the symbol again and change the class. Then go back to the border and select the title block again. It will bring in the title with the new class. Per our other discussion, you do realize that by having only a single title block on a single layer, you will not be able to use the automatic sheet/drawing labeling using the drawing label tool right? Pat Quote Link to comment
Brooke Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Well no, I'm not sure if it penetrated and thank you for clarifying... that was part of what was driving my query about the originating data for the drawing label. And I'm still unclear as to why the drawing label is not tracking (as shown in the posted image). (Note to self to further clarify the obvious, and what you told me explicitly: standard practice is to have a separate border/title sheet for every drawing so that each may be paged thereon and so that individual drawings on the same sheet my be numbered automatically.) I wish I could change the class of the title block rather than re-creating it, which is maybe more of an accurate way to describe an 'edit.' (except that the box is made, and importantly the data nodes are present)??? "Edit the symbol again..." I wish I could do that without re-entering the project info from page one of the title block data input (and that I could do a few other things with the title block that aren't working out like I want them to). Quote Link to comment
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