Create Viewport Section (marker problem) 2008

[CS1]

I have created a "viewport section" and using the "section line"

I have chosen "marker type 2"

"text at both ends" selected

For "text style" I have chosen "item over sheet"

Under "item name" I have inserted "A"

Under "sheet name" I have inserted "03"

When I look at the marker on the Page the "A" is in the centre of the marker with the "03" hovering s;ightly under the marker. It seems the marker is alligning he centre of "A" with the centre of the marker and not aligning "A"/"03", hope that makes sense. I have tried manually moving the text up but there is no individual selection mode for the text just the marker as a whole.

Sorry for the frequent use of ""

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[Dieter @ DWorks]

that's what I meant also in this post:

http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=92673&page=1#Post92673

It's a real problem!

[Guest]

Please send this info, along with the file to bugsubmit@nemetschek.net

[Dieter @ DWorks]

I just had a response of NNA and now I know what the problem is:

If you double-click on the section line, then you CAN'T reposition the handle of the text.

You just need to select the section line not being in edit mode. Then the texthandle will be adjustable.

[Petri]

Yesterday I spoke with a new user (since 2 weeks or so). He had lost all section markers and all sections. Despite 4th grade interrogation, he did not confess having done anything wrong.

Now, I am breeding a new pack of rats, to be used in my Friendly User Rehabilitation Room 101, but if he still insists that 2+2=4, what should I do?

[michael john williams]

It is a pain that the text can not be centered on in the section box - its not neat and looks unprofessional. Also linking the sectionline to the vp means the same sectionline only appears on one level when it shoul be shown on all levels / plans. Its hard to edit or move the section line and easier to recreate the section line but then all your lines and notes in annotations has to be redone. There may be ways round this but it is not simple.

[Pat Stanford]

I don't understand what you mean by "text can not be centered on in the section box". Do you mean in the annotations? Or in the section line marker.

For your second problem, select the Section Viewport in the OIP. Near the bottom of the box is something called "Section Line Instances" (or something similar, I don't have VW open right now). Click the button and you will get a list of all the possible layers. Just check the ones where you want the section line to show.

Seem pretty simple to me ;-)

Pat

[michael john williams]

Pat

Thanks again,

say yoy add 1 as item and 307 as drg no then the text in the circle is not centred

[Pat Stanford]

Michael,

Select (don't double click) the section line and look closely. You should see two selection handles. One is centered in the middle of the two bits of text, the other is at the end point of the section line.

Grab the one for the text and drag it to the other one. Does that look like you want?

The problem that I have found (other than having to do this in the first place) is that the text is behind the rest of the pieces in teh stacking order, so once you get the two handles coincident, you can't grab and move the text again.

I am working on a script to do the alignment. It works, but it needs some polish. How would you like to see the script work? Active Layer, All Layers?

You could probably also edit the Paramters for the Section-Elevation Marker PIO. Item 18, ControlPoint01X has a default of 0.1. Change this to 0 and it should be centered. I know it says NNA DO NOT CHANGE!!!!!!!!, but I think this would be safe to do. Downside is you would have to do it after every upgrade.

Regards,

Pat

[CS1]

What is "OIP" (in Pats comment)

[CS1]

For your second problem, select the Section Viewport in the OIP. Near the bottom of the box is something called "Section Line Instances"

What is OIP?

[Pat Stanford]

OIP = Object Info Palette.

Pat

[michael john williams]

This has been good got all my text centred and sections lines shoen on each layer.........but the section lines do not show in the vps!?

[Guest Wes Gardner]

Michael,

Have you got your section info worked out...once a section has been cut and placed on a sheet, you need to go to the Object Info Palette (OIP) and as CS1 suggests, down near the bottom is a "button" called Section Line Instances - this is where you can tell VectorWorks on which drawings (Sheets) to place your section markers...

Is this what you're looking for?

[michael john williams]

Yes we have now done this but the section lines only show on the design layers. We set the section line up on the ground floor layer plan not the vp ground floor plan [i believe this is correct to set sections up in design layers and not vps]. We have check that the class the section lines are turned on and turned on in the vp but they do not show in the vp? As the vp is the page printed it would be could to see them on the vp.

Are we doing something wrong or do section lines do not show in vps?

[brudgers]

From my limited experience, I have the sense that the preferred location is in a viewport.

They seem to be more easily manipulated with the annotation attached.

[michael john williams]

But then the section line can not be seen and instances do not work in vps.

What is the point of section lines instances if you can not locate your section lines in the final drawing?

[Guest Wes Gardner]

You CAN locate your section lines in the plan viewports of your final drawings.

Here's how -

Go to one of your section sheets, single click the viewport there, go to Section Line Instances in the OIP, toggle the button to show you the list of VIEWPORTS, select the plan viewport you wish to have your section "bug" occur on and Voila!

You may have to "mess around" (technical term) to get your class visibilities where you want them but that's how it's supposed to work

If you send me your e-mail, I'll attach a file (residential scale) showing this process

Wes

Edited February 12, 2008 by Wes Gardner

[CS1]

In your file im guessing you have a few sheet layers with the section viewport marker showing (instances) on each viewport. Can you try moving one of the viewports and tell me what happens to the viewport marker on your file?

[Guest Wes Gardner]

Can you be a little more specific, when you say "move" is that just relocate on same sheet or create another sheet and move it there (or another scenario?) and move which, a section viewport or a plan viewport? And yes, I'd be glad to help.

Edited February 13, 2008 by Wes Gardner

[CS1]

Yeah just say move the viewport to the left or right a couple of metres. I find on mine when I move the viewport the Section markers in the annotation area move off the page by a kilometre.

[CS1]

I also find when I move the viewport and section marker goes AWAL, if I use UNDO the viewport moves back to its original location but the UNDO has no efect on the Section Marker.

[Guest Wes Gardner]

I tried moving a plan viewport and it had no effect - rock solid stable and same results with a section viewport - even if I move the section viewport, the plan stays in-tact, same the other way 'round

I'm on a Mac? In theory, platform shouldn't have a thing to do with it...but that's THEORY??

Sorry, I can't make mine mess up...

Edited February 13, 2008 by Wes Gardner

[michael john williams]

Wes

Thanks for that - so simple and we have been struggling for months to work it out, using our own drawn sections lines in vps, etc to show it.

Pity it is not in the manual.