Mesh structure tunnle, help~plx

[ZERO_DANNY]

can Vector work do this? i try many ways of method , but how the mesh can easily combine with the shape i want? and to put glass on as well ? do i have to keep doing the solid substract? can any exper tell me how can i do this?

[Benson Shaw]

Good luck on this one. VW can probably do the drawings, but it will take lots of work in lots of small parts.

You seem to have two kinds of components. A mesh shell with glass infill, and an organic structure with holes in it.

Some wild guesses for the mesh shell:

1. Make a nurbs surface by lofting around some cross section ovals - then make and apply a texture with the mesh. This gives the visual, but not a bunch of measurable components.

2. Work in small areas. Make a terrain model of each small area. Make the triangular grid with extrudes for the frame and planar surfaces for the glass. Send them to the surface.

3. Create the glass shell with loft from a bunch of Nurbs ribs or ovals. Keep the Nurbs. Create a frame. Duplicate along path for each Nurbs "rib". Adjust the corners to match.

For the walkway structure:

1. Divide into segments - from centers of 3 or 4 holes. Loft around some Nurbs shaped as half ovals. You might need outer half shell and inner half shell for each segment.

2. Loft a shell for each leg of the shape, but no holes. Subtract the holes with poly extrudes or Nurbs then profile loft the hole edges.

Sorry, no time to make a trial on this. Good challenge though.

-B

[Petri]

VW is definitely not ideal, probably not even suitable, for something like this. Perhaps doable, but there must be better programs for it.

[bc]

This is a job for....ISLANDMON !!

Yes! Islandmon!

Who came to earth with powers far beyond those of any mortal cadmon.

And who, disguised as a mild mannered contributor for a great metropolitan VW message board, fights a never-ending battle for truth, justice and the Fractal Way.

Organic Fractals anyone?

[islandmon]

bc ... you rock... as do Organic Fractals!

Zero_Danny ... the answer is Yes ...Vectorworks can create that structure.

The load bearing exo-skeleton geodesic frame appears to be basically a cylinder capped with a dome of some sort.

The organic spiral walkway is created from a series of linked solids. The graphic is rather odd in that the people are not to scale nor is the ramp. Nevertheless, it's doable with a few essential modifications.

[Petri]

Maybe, but there are better programs for modelling unbuildable things...

I would have been a great contributor to Gehry, Libeskind or Hadid - or even Saarinen... I'm sorry Eero, I'm afraid I can't do it.

Has Zaha actually built anything, by the way?

[G_Hannigan]

Cinema4D

[islandmon]

There's a huge difference between conceptual modeling and actual structural design.

Is it best to do this type of conceptual modeling in Vectorworks ... probably not...if you cherish your sanity.

Can VW handle the structural design of it ... you bet.

Sooner or later it always comes down to the structural system required to support the form. The exterior may be clad with undulating titanium panels, but like the Statue of Liberty... once you get under her copper skin ...the underlying structure is riveted & bolt iron trusses. The world is still shocked that Eiffel refused to clad his beloved tower. Lucky for us all ... he didn't use Cinema4D ; )

[Benson Shaw]

Perhaps islandmon is alluding to this:

Gustave Eiffel, of the Parisian tower fame, also designed the structural frame for the Statue of Liberty in New York Harbor.

http://www.endex.com/gf/buildings/liberty/libertyfacts/solusdi1944.htm

-B

[islandmon]

Statue Of Liberty >Cladding vs Structure:

[ZERO_DANNY]

thanks you guys help, i try to put a lot of time to do it, but still not perfect as like the one i show , any way, my computer don;t have this ability to handle this much texture as well, also the rendering i guess will take half day for my computer.