IanB Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 It appears that 1 user here is also experiencing the same problem as Borgo, since we upgraded to 12.1.5. The issue I first mentioned above was apparent prior to our upgrade and still is happening Quote Link to comment
borgo1971 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 (edited) Are you kidding? I want to return to the 12.5! Do you read my previous posts? It can be they are not completely without syntax errors, but I did a great effort to write them, in hope to be useful to correct the bugs... But now I must do some work... or better, a lot in little time! So I'd like to work with a stable software: VectorWorks 12.5.0! Edited January 16, 2007 by borgo1971 Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 etice, Are any other computers having the same problem? Are there certain files that the problem crops up in more often than others? Does the problem happen at about the same time after a file is open, each time the problem occurs? Ian, The problem you are having is likely happening because the hard drive is not mounted at time of save. Do you have problems with the shared drive remaining mounted? Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Borgo - I'm sorry. I missed most of your posts. I don't see where you tried the suggestions after the first post. It looks like you won't be able to try that until tomorrow at the earliest. As for the printer, a communication error is usually a problem in the operating system. Have you run disk utility recently? What error message do you get when VW "crashes" b/c of the printing problem? Does this happen in all of your files, or only particular files? Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 No,I have not installed it on other computers, company policy is that I try it out first and if there are no problems then I pass it around. No, it would happen to all the files I opened. No, the error message just pop-uped at random. Some times it happened back to back and other times it would happen with long gaps. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Just to clarify - is this with 12.5.0 or 12.5.1? Are others in the office using 12.5.0 or earlier? Quote Link to comment
IanB Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 We've never had problems with the disk before, and this is a problem we've only ever encountered with VW 12, all worked fine before we upgraded from 11. No other programmes experience problems. Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 the problem is with 12.5.1, the others are using 12.5 Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 I have tried to reload the update but it did the same thing. this s the report: Date/Time: 2007-01-16 13:22:41.970 -0500 OS Version: 10.4.8 (Build 8L127) Report Version: 4 Command: VectorWorks Path: /Applications/VectorWorks 12.5.0/VectorWorks.app/Contents/MacOS/VectorWorks Parent: WindowServer [29741] Version: 12.5.1 (???) 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etice Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 after this latest error message, i went to reopen VW and now it is asking my serial numbers. very strange. Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 16, 2007 Author Share Posted January 16, 2007 ok the serial number problem is solved Quote Link to comment
borgo1971 Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 etice, try to delete VectorWorks Preference file: for me it helped. Now I haven't not much time to do other tries, and I really like to go back to 12.5 that worked better for me (I've lost the 12.0 > 12.5 updater), but for now I go with 12.5.1 that after I rebuilded preference file seems to be usable. Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 17, 2007 Author Share Posted January 17, 2007 Borgo- I'll give that a try. I did reinstall 12.5.1, The shut downs don't happen as often but they still happen. I have the .dmg file but I think it is to big to send to you. I think I'm going back to 12.5 for a little bit. Quote Link to comment
borgo1971 Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 I only don't understand way Nemetschek has removed the update from their site. They have all intermediate updates from VectorWorks 8, 9, 10 ad 11, but not the 12->12.5. Katieee: can we have back the 12 -> 12.5 updater on the site, please? or have you not enough space on it? Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 If you are using a Mac, a new 12.5.1 updater fixing the open file problems will be available by the end of next week, hopefully sooner. In the interim, turn off save file to backup. You may also want to copy the file from the network to the local computer, work on it and save it there. When done working on the file, copy it back to the network. Quote Link to comment
Guest Posted January 18, 2007 Share Posted January 18, 2007 Cross-reference post: http://techboard.nemetschek.net/ubbthrea...=true#Post72195 Quote Link to comment
etice Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Great, Thanks for the help. Quote Link to comment
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